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Exclusive Games Are "Antiquated," Xbox President Says

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    > please don’t mention Heroic or Lutris because they barely work either Odd, been enjoying Silksong via Heoric (GOG) and it just works. Not sure what the 'barely works' part you are talking about is.
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    > Not sure what the 'barely works' part you are talking about is. The part where it barely works. Like maybe 50% of the time.
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      > Not sure what the 'barely works' part you are talking about is. The part where it barely works. Like maybe 50% of the time.
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      Do you have specific examples of games that didn't work for you?
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        I agree with this. I also agree that exclusives need to go, but it is _very_ interesting that team "We tried buying our way into exclusives and then made them shittier at every step" is now crying that "it's because people don't want exclusives anymore" Which, yeah, but also your exclusives you made absolute shite. Look what you did to my poor Halo. A near perfect gaming experience 15 years ago with one of the most epic sci-fi stories I've played, now to a boring bland corporate ripoff with absolutely no heart. Gears of war the same, a gritty action game based on the survival of humanity to... I don't even remember the last two installments. Them exiting exclusives isn't because they (rightfully) think we're done with exclusives, it's because they trashed their own IP.
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          Do you have specific examples of games that didn't work for you?
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          I don't keep a log but off the top of my head, Deathloop and Cygni
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            I'm glad about this because I just game on Linux now, and the this attitude means they're less likely to sabotage things to specifically fail through Wine/Proton, but as a business, I imagine this only really works if they have good products that are clearly better than their competition, and they just aren't.
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              It would be good news if there were any games on there I actually wanted to buy, or if they supported Proton. And please don't mention Heroic or Lutris because they barely work either. Steam is the only one that works 100% of the time.
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              Dude, you know you can integrate non-steam games into your steam library to deploy proton/have them in your game selection, right? It's literally two clicks.
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                Dude, you know you can integrate non-steam games into your steam library to deploy proton/have them in your game selection, right? It's literally two clicks.
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                Dude, you know that _literally_ doesn't work either?
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                  Dude, you know that _literally_ doesn't work either?
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                  Cuphead, Papers Please, Freedom Planet, and Quake 1 and 2 work perfectly with that configuration in steam on both my Debian-based and Arch based linux installations (Games installed to disk using their provided installers and then having their windows executables added to steam with Proton 9). If you have something esoteric about your setup, explain it here, and we can look at it.
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                    Cuphead, Papers Please, Freedom Planet, and Quake 1 and 2 work perfectly with that configuration in steam on both my Debian-based and Arch based linux installations (Games installed to disk using their provided installers and then having their windows executables added to steam with Proton 9). If you have something esoteric about your setup, explain it here, and we can look at it.
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                    I didn't come here to debug my system. I spent many hours trying across various distros with no success. I don't care anymore. I just buy and use them on steam and they just work. The end.
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                      It would be good news if there were any games on there I actually wanted to buy, or if they supported Proton. And please don't mention Heroic or Lutris because they barely work either. Steam is the only one that works 100% of the time.
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                      Over half my library is from GOG and over 95% of my gaming is on Linux. It's as easy as Steam, you click install and play.
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                        Yes bet so are console platforms.
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                          I'm glad about this because I just game on Linux now, and the this attitude means they're less likely to sabotage things to specifically fail through Wine/Proton, but as a business, I imagine this only really works if they have good products that are clearly better than their competition, and they just aren't.
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                          If it wont run on linux I don't play it.
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                            Software has won. This was inevitable once ports looked the same and ran the same. Doubling your customer base, without developing the whole game twice? Obvious choice for any third party. First-party developers have taken longer, because their parent companies primarily own them to promote a hardware business. Microsoft's hardware business has become vestigial. It always was, to some extent; the Xbox project was a 1990s scheme to PC-ify the console market. It worked. Consoles don't exist anymore. Do you want the green AMD laptop, or the blue AMD laptop? Even Nintendo rebadged an Android tablet. You can release some crazy new hardware unlike anything else, but the only third-party games will be multiplatform hits that run like garbage. Like on early PS3. The Helldivers 2 PSN fiasco sure looks like Sony found out how profitable they'd be as just another publisher and the answer scared the shit out of them. Without that service, they don't have a *platform,* anymore. They sell a popular model of an IBM compatible. Asterisk on the compatible. Nintendo can get away with that shit forever, because they own Pokemon. I don't know how much longer you can cosplay that sort of first-party importance, on the strength of Horizon and... Death Stranding.
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                              This is just PR talk, they will 100% release exclusives on GamePass when the subscriber numbers reach some sort of critical mass.
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                                They're sad they don't have Ghost on Xbox.
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                                  Xbox lost that fight. I like PlayStation/Sony a bit less... and, in some ways, a bit more. Both companies have pulled a lot of bullshit over the last decade plus and honestly I'm a bit tired of both of them. Not that Nintendo is any better. And I'm not a PCMR guy either, I use Macs. I have Cyberpunk, I have Blue Prince... might just be ageing out of gaming. Never cared for live service games, most DLC, or the super casual, or, on the other end of the spectrum, anything "Soulslike". I guess I just miss when games were simple, fun, and rewarding. And they still can be, but with consoles going up to $700 and games going up to $100, they have to work a lot harder to get there, and I feel like too many of them are falling short. Exclusives are some bullshit, but I had the right idea years ago and I think it's still true. PlayStation needs their own version of GamePass. Both services get limited to 1080p and no DLC. PlayStation has to allow GamePass and Xbox has to allow the PlayStation version. So one console gets you all the games, but owning a console means you can play games at 4K and have DLC options. Then exclusives are kinda fine because it then boils down to just extras and some flash. Oh, and of course you could buy neither console and subscribe to both streaming platforms and play all the games without the extras. (This was also when GPU was $15 a month. Now it's double that, so the idea is not as good anymore.)
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                                    It would be good news if there were any games on there I actually wanted to buy, or if they supported Proton. And please don't mention Heroic or Lutris because they barely work either. Steam is the only one that works 100% of the time.
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                                    Tried Bottles yet?
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