@futurebird
I recall a computer 'scientist' at getting very upset when I queried whether he could legitimately be styled a scientist.
Have any computer scientist ever made a fundamental discovery or a new insight into some system? Perhaps best described as engineers.
He was affronted to be dubbed an engineer. Another person at the workshop was listening in and said they were happy to be called an engineer. This lead onto another discussion of whether someone working with quantum mechanics should be called an engineer.
Can't remember what the workshop was about. Possibly conflict in the workplace. I feel I contributed....