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Battlefield 6 open beta won't run if you have Valorant installed, thanks to Riot's anti-cheat

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    Hopefully this moves people to view kernel level anti-cheat as malicious and as nefarious as other malware.
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      Who could have predicted that hanging ten conflicting kernel-level anti-cheat installations might cause compatibility problems?
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      righthandofikaros@lemmy.world
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      The installations aren't the problem. Trying to run them at the same time is the problem, but why would anyone be loading more than one game at a time?
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        Top comment on the article: > This is false and Eurogamer covered it already. You cannot run both at the same time, but both can be installed. The Valorant anti-cheat just cannot be active (it can be turned off at any time if it is running and requires a reboot before the game can be played if disabled). https://www.eurogamer.net/you-cant-play-battlefield-6-and-valorant-at-the-same-time-heres-why
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        Honestly that's not much better. I shouldn't be expected to reboot my computer to play a game.
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          How long before these kernel level rootkits start identifying each other as cheats, making being a fan of more than one game a bannable offense?
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            Honestly that's not much better. I shouldn't be expected to reboot my computer to play a game.
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            As far as I understand it, you'd need to reboot only if you 1. Had Valorant running 2. Stopped Valve's anticheat manually 3. Want to play Valorant again afterwards. It's still stupid, yeah. But workarounds are usually that
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              The installations aren't the problem. Trying to run them at the same time is the problem, but why would anyone be loading more than one game at a time?
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              i routinely have 3 games running in the background, sometimes 4. Different strokes and all that.
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                The installations aren't the problem. Trying to run them at the same time is the problem, but why would anyone be loading more than one game at a time?
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                Not sure if you're being serious, but at least Riot Games' anti-cheat Vanguard always wants to be running in the background, whether the game is running or not. Sure, you can stop it, but if you then want to play something that requires it, you have to reboot. There's no manual way to start it. One of the reasons I decided to drop Valorant.
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                  The installations aren't the problem. Trying to run them at the same time is the problem, but why would anyone be loading more than one game at a time?
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                  grue@lemmy.world
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                  > but why would anyone be loading more than one game at a time? Maybe you're virtualizing it for multiple users. Sure, that might sound like a weird thing to do, but that's mostly because shit like this makes it harder than it ought to be.
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                    It should also be noted cheats can and have bypassed both BF6 and Valorants anti-cheat anyway.
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                      As far as I understand it, you'd need to reboot only if you 1. Had Valorant running 2. Stopped Valve's anticheat manually 3. Want to play Valorant again afterwards. It's still stupid, yeah. But workarounds are usually that
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                      ryannathans@aussie.zone
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                      Valorant is riot games... Not valve
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                        Low Level Learning had a good video about this: https://youtu.be/VtHlMTc8lR4
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                          Valorant is riot games... Not valve
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                          Oops, autocorrect. Let me edit that
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                            What helps solve all of this is not playing online hype games. Single player ftw.
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                              But it at least stops cheating, right? Right?
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                                What helps solve all of this is not playing online hype games. Single player ftw.
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                                aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                How else would I get my hourly dose of homophobic insults on voice from teenagers with barely broken voices?! Not to mention being frequently informed that my 70 year old mom is a prostitute. If I try and simulate the multiplayer experience on a single player game by insulting myself, it's just not the same.
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                                  i routinely have 3 games running in the background, sometimes 4. Different strokes and all that.
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                                  jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works
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                                  The anticheat runs all the time unless you specifically exit it and requires a reboot of the computer for the exit to take, the reverse is true to turn it back on as well.
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                                    Not sure if you're being serious, but at least Riot Games' anti-cheat Vanguard always wants to be running in the background, whether the game is running or not. Sure, you can stop it, but if you then want to play something that requires it, you have to reboot. There's no manual way to start it. One of the reasons I decided to drop Valorant.
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                                    Hm - arguably, that actually puts Riot more at fault here. It’s a scummy environment either way, but at least if Battlefield is shutting down anticheat when you close the game, that’s a small step above.
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                                      What helps solve all of this is not playing online hype games. Single player ftw.
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                                      How about games that dont run a anticheat deep into the kernel or Server side anticheat.
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                                        If you consciously install a rootkit to play a game, you deserve whatever comes after.
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                                        Most people have zero understanding of what it is, what the implications are, or even that they're installing it when they press play.
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                                          Hm - arguably, that actually puts Riot more at fault here. It’s a scummy environment either way, but at least if Battlefield is shutting down anticheat when you close the game, that’s a small step above.
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                                          Oh I think they're both at fault. Fuck EA/Battlefield for the SecureBoot requirement too. In fact, fuck all games with kernel level anti-cheats.
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