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Battlefield 6 open beta won't run if you have Valorant installed, thanks to Riot's anti-cheat

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  • R righthandofikaros@lemmy.world
    The installations aren't the problem. Trying to run them at the same time is the problem, but why would anyone be loading more than one game at a time?
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    ObsidianZed
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    Not sure if you're being serious, but at least Riot Games' anti-cheat Vanguard always wants to be running in the background, whether the game is running or not. Sure, you can stop it, but if you then want to play something that requires it, you have to reboot. There's no manual way to start it. One of the reasons I decided to drop Valorant.
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    • R righthandofikaros@lemmy.world
      The installations aren't the problem. Trying to run them at the same time is the problem, but why would anyone be loading more than one game at a time?
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      grue@lemmy.world
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      > but why would anyone be loading more than one game at a time? Maybe you're virtualizing it for multiple users. Sure, that might sound like a weird thing to do, but that's mostly because shit like this makes it harder than it ought to be.
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        It should also be noted cheats can and have bypassed both BF6 and Valorants anti-cheat anyway.
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          As far as I understand it, you'd need to reboot only if you 1. Had Valorant running 2. Stopped Valve's anticheat manually 3. Want to play Valorant again afterwards. It's still stupid, yeah. But workarounds are usually that
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          ryannathans@aussie.zone
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          Valorant is riot games... Not valve
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            Low Level Learning had a good video about this: https://youtu.be/VtHlMTc8lR4
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            • R ryannathans@aussie.zone
              Valorant is riot games... Not valve
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              Oops, autocorrect. Let me edit that
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                What helps solve all of this is not playing online hype games. Single player ftw.
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                  But it at least stops cheating, right? Right?
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                    What helps solve all of this is not playing online hype games. Single player ftw.
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                    aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                    How else would I get my hourly dose of homophobic insults on voice from teenagers with barely broken voices?! Not to mention being frequently informed that my 70 year old mom is a prostitute. If I try and simulate the multiplayer experience on a single player game by insulting myself, it's just not the same.
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                      i routinely have 3 games running in the background, sometimes 4. Different strokes and all that.
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                      jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works
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                      The anticheat runs all the time unless you specifically exit it and requires a reboot of the computer for the exit to take, the reverse is true to turn it back on as well.
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                      • O ObsidianZed
                        Not sure if you're being serious, but at least Riot Games' anti-cheat Vanguard always wants to be running in the background, whether the game is running or not. Sure, you can stop it, but if you then want to play something that requires it, you have to reboot. There's no manual way to start it. One of the reasons I decided to drop Valorant.
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                        Hm - arguably, that actually puts Riot more at fault here. It’s a scummy environment either way, but at least if Battlefield is shutting down anticheat when you close the game, that’s a small step above.
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                          What helps solve all of this is not playing online hype games. Single player ftw.
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                          How about games that dont run a anticheat deep into the kernel or Server side anticheat.
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                            If you consciously install a rootkit to play a game, you deserve whatever comes after.
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                            Most people have zero understanding of what it is, what the implications are, or even that they're installing it when they press play.
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                              Hm - arguably, that actually puts Riot more at fault here. It’s a scummy environment either way, but at least if Battlefield is shutting down anticheat when you close the game, that’s a small step above.
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                              ObsidianZed
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                              Oh I think they're both at fault. Fuck EA/Battlefield for the SecureBoot requirement too. In fact, fuck all games with kernel level anti-cheats.
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                                But it at least stops cheating, right? Right?
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                                Just like DRM, the people hurt are the paying customers not the pirates.
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                                • Toes♀T Toes♀
                                  Honestly that's not much better. I shouldn't be expected to reboot my computer to play a game.
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                                  As a linux gamer, I agree…
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                                    This beta has been a whole clownfest.
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                                      If there's a game that ever needed stringent anticheat, it's Battlefield.
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                                      • A aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                                        How else would I get my hourly dose of homophobic insults on voice from teenagers with barely broken voices?! Not to mention being frequently informed that my 70 year old mom is a prostitute. If I try and simulate the multiplayer experience on a single player game by insulting myself, it's just not the same.
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                                        In 400+ hours of Helldivers 2 I have only had a handful of groups with people talking shit in voice or type chat. The co-op nature of the game probably helps with that.
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                                          Bold of you to assume anyone who has Valorant installed wants to play BF6
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