Trinket.io is shutting down.
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What I could use is an app, that is in the "google play store" that you can buy, or is free... with no ads (non-negotiable about the ads, this is for school)
That was kind of an all in one python compiler and text editor.
On mac, python is in the command line and I use "thony" or other IDEs to work with it (or terminal if I want to scare the children)
But what do you do on a got dang chromebook?
I don't need to run big programs. Just turtle and scripts.
There are websites that let you execute python online. Perhaps there's on that is specialized for students in a classroom.
This one has ads so you may not want it:
https://www.online-python.com/ -
Trinket.io is shutting down.
I'm kind of bummed. It doesn't seem possible to spin up your own version on a local server so I need to decide what to do for fifth grade python programming by the end of the summer.
The head of IT put me on to trinket... I didn't like that it was an IDE in a browser. But It was clean.
Please don't tell me "just install linux on 300 chromebooks."
That would be nice, but it's not in my control. I could ask IT to add apps to the the chromebooks however.
@futurebird I used to be into cloud IDEs. Portable, etc. But these days I’m a vim boy.
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There are websites that let you execute python online. Perhaps there's on that is specialized for students in a classroom.
This one has ads so you may not want it:
https://www.online-python.com/I'm trying to get away from browser apps because they can change or be shut down at any moment.
Though we may end up just hoping to another service like this.
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Trinket.io is shutting down.
I'm kind of bummed. It doesn't seem possible to spin up your own version on a local server so I need to decide what to do for fifth grade python programming by the end of the summer.
The head of IT put me on to trinket... I didn't like that it was an IDE in a browser. But It was clean.
Please don't tell me "just install linux on 300 chromebooks."
That would be nice, but it's not in my control. I could ask IT to add apps to the the chromebooks however.
@futurebird That makes me sad, I hope you're able to find a solution.
I haven't looked at anything for kids that age for a while, as my own kiddos are older now. I thought I'd glance at code.org to see if they recommended anything and it's AI nonsense slapped all over the landing page. Money going to all the wrong causes.
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Trinket.io is shutting down.
I'm kind of bummed. It doesn't seem possible to spin up your own version on a local server so I need to decide what to do for fifth grade python programming by the end of the summer.
The head of IT put me on to trinket... I didn't like that it was an IDE in a browser. But It was clean.
Please don't tell me "just install linux on 300 chromebooks."
That would be nice, but it's not in my control. I could ask IT to add apps to the the chromebooks however.
@futurebird Crazy, over-the-top idea, but is it possible to run a virtual machine on a Chromebook? Then you could run whatever with a proper IDE and everything. That would be a real PITA to deal with deploying I imagine, but it would give you full (albeit probably slow) capabilities for what you want.
I know there are very limited VMs for Android. I couldn't find out if Chromebook has them.
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I made the seniors in advanced CS use ONLY terminal for a whole week and got a "thank you" letter from one at college.
"everyone thinks I'm a hacker this is amazing"
Yes, it is that easy I suppose.
@futurebird @alter_kaker opened a terminal to check something out on the laptop of one of my club's linux newbies and he went "you're hacking!!!!!!"
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@futurebird actually wait I think this supports python without having to do anything special
Visual Studio Code for the Web
Build with Visual Studio Code, anywhere, anytime, entirely in your browser.
(vscode.dev)
and it's run by microsoft so it's a lot less likely to suddenly disappear
@ben @futurebird And it’s run by microslop so it’s awfully likely to start pushing AI features at the students you’re trying to teach coding to.
And that’s without even touching the question of covert vendor promotion through educational channels.
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@futurebird @alter_kaker opened a terminal to check something out on the laptop of one of my club's linux newbies and he went "you're hacking!!!!!!"
One of my sixth grade student **tattled on me** to the IT head because "she was hacking" (using terminal)
He just rolled around laughing for a full min.
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I made the seniors in advanced CS use ONLY terminal for a whole week and got a "thank you" letter from one at college.
"everyone thinks I'm a hacker this is amazing"
Yes, it is that easy I suppose.
@futurebird @alter_kaker I hope you showed them https://hackertyper.net/
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@futurebird That makes me sad, I hope you're able to find a solution.
I haven't looked at anything for kids that age for a while, as my own kiddos are older now. I thought I'd glance at code.org to see if they recommended anything and it's AI nonsense slapped all over the landing page. Money going to all the wrong causes.
@futurebird Sorry to double post, I was just reading the Trinket announcement. I guess it's possible someone in the community will pick up the server software if Trinket do open source it, as they say they will.
Is the Pickcode option they recommended off the table, or just not suitable? The about page sounds earnest, at least. Sounds quite pricey though, unfortunately.
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@ben @futurebird And it’s run by microslop so it’s awfully likely to start pushing AI features at the students you’re trying to teach coding to.
And that’s without even touching the question of covert vendor promotion through educational channels.
@cmdrmoto @futurebird the premise is they're using chromebooks. that ship has sailed.
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I'm trying to get away from browser apps because they can change or be shut down at any moment.
Though we may end up just hoping to another service like this.
Codidad can be run on your own server and students can go to a url and they'll get a python ide. But there's no command line.
I'll ask my son the HS math teacher if he knows of anything.
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Trinket.io is shutting down.
I'm kind of bummed. It doesn't seem possible to spin up your own version on a local server so I need to decide what to do for fifth grade python programming by the end of the summer.
The head of IT put me on to trinket... I didn't like that it was an IDE in a browser. But It was clean.
Please don't tell me "just install linux on 300 chromebooks."
That would be nice, but it's not in my control. I could ask IT to add apps to the the chromebooks however.
@futurebird would a teaching-specific language with a web IDE work? Something like Pyret?
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Trinket.io is shutting down.
I'm kind of bummed. It doesn't seem possible to spin up your own version on a local server so I need to decide what to do for fifth grade python programming by the end of the summer.
The head of IT put me on to trinket... I didn't like that it was an IDE in a browser. But It was clean.
Please don't tell me "just install linux on 300 chromebooks."
That would be nice, but it's not in my control. I could ask IT to add apps to the the chromebooks however.
@futurebird i used to really like using replit for things like that but it seems like that company has pivoted to being some AI slop app generator thing for some reason??
i feel like there has to be some sort of open source alternative to it but i don't know what's out there -
I made the seniors in advanced CS use ONLY terminal for a whole week and got a "thank you" letter from one at college.
"everyone thinks I'm a hacker this is amazing"
Yes, it is that easy I suppose.
@futurebird YAAAAS
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I made the seniors in advanced CS use ONLY terminal for a whole week and got a "thank you" letter from one at college.
"everyone thinks I'm a hacker this is amazing"
Yes, it is that easy I suppose.
@futurebird @alter_kaker We were the 'deploy girl' in college, cause we had terminal skills and could ssh into shit.
Was great, except for when everyone had stayed up in the first place to get the code written, and then we had to stay up an extra half hour or so for _everyone's_ grades. -
@futurebird i used to really like using replit for things like that but it seems like that company has pivoted to being some AI slop app generator thing for some reason??
i feel like there has to be some sort of open source alternative to it but i don't know what's out there -
I made the seniors in advanced CS use ONLY terminal for a whole week and got a "thank you" letter from one at college.
"everyone thinks I'm a hacker this is amazing"
Yes, it is that easy I suppose.
@futurebird lmao reminds me of 8th grade Keyboarding class. I finished my exercises and dropped into DOS bc I was bored. I didn't know how to do anything dangerous there, just basic navigation and dir lists and such, but that was enough to get some of the other kids asking if I was a hacker!
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Trinket.io is shutting down.
I'm kind of bummed. It doesn't seem possible to spin up your own version on a local server so I need to decide what to do for fifth grade python programming by the end of the summer.
The head of IT put me on to trinket... I didn't like that it was an IDE in a browser. But It was clean.
Please don't tell me "just install linux on 300 chromebooks."
That would be nice, but it's not in my control. I could ask IT to add apps to the the chromebooks however.
@futurebird I don't know how much freedom you have but I taught a one week course on just general coding but we used python, and i have resources here:
https://moosadee.gitlab.io/courses/camp_creative_coding/index.htmlWe did some various web tools.
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apple laptops are pretty easy to do command line stuff on even with all of the security software.
I'm very happy with the macbooks in that way.
@futurebird @nazokiyoubinbou It's odd to me that I don't hear more people talking about this. Apple computers are pretty great for programming and especially web dev in my experience: you get a unix-like terminal environment, but you can also use all the corporate software you want. It's a bit heretical to say, but this ends up functionally being linux that will run adobe software natively, which is very useful to some people (AKA, me when I was doing front end web dev)
