I can't wait to get more games on my Epic deck, oh wait it was Valve who pioneered an incredible platform that can play AAA games on a handheld running Linux and made compatibility a reality for thousands of games.

No, I'm not. you're *assuming* i am. game developers dont *generally* have the relationships with distributors. the whole point of a publisher is to handle that relationship + the relationship with marketing avenues. with digital distribution the role of a publisher is greatly reduced. mostly down to just marketing.

What's epics problem? I only log in to get free games but I think competition should work out better for the consumer

They could literally just copy steam, add their "we take less of a cut" thing, and be in a good place. Instead, using their storefront sucks, their customer service sucks, they lack features you'd expect of a major platform, and they're pretentious dicks about it. Instead of fixing these obvious problems, they're bribing devs for exclusivity, pumping their marketing with bullshit, and litigating apple over their app store (actually that last one is kinda great). The epic store today would be competition to steam if steam was still as it was 20 years ago when everyone hated steam.

A lot of Steam Stans here. Here's some neat facts: - Epic Games is the same Source Developers behind Unreal Engine 5. UE5 is arguably the best game engine right now for modern graphics. - Epic Games Unreal Engine 5 is Free to start developing and only kicks in commission after X% of sales. - Both Steam and GoG take a ~30% commission on all game sales. - Steam games aren't DRM-free (neither is EGS, but 0% + the driving force behind UE5?) - The Steam Source 2 Engine is proprietary; only their team can develop Source games. It sucks that EGS is looking to suck up games, customers, data, etc. Their App / Interface also kinda sucks. UE5 on the other hand kinda rules, and Steam has been quietly collecting cheques while their Source Engine has collected dust. Almost all my games are on Steam but the ones I want to keep I've been getting through GoG. Steam is going to have to make some tough decisions I think to compete as time goes on. GoG on the other hand has a solid business model of old DRM free games.

Yet Steam has a history that proves they will not fuck customers over, and if they try new features people hate they'll not pushing it through no matter what for the purpose of maximizing profits (also not through dark patterns). This is something phenomenally rare and which you can't buy with any amount of money. So yeah, not sure what will happen in the future. But competing with Steam always will be just painful unless you got your own niche (like GOG) by the mere fact that Valve isn't "just another company that will screw you over" <-- the default expectation these days.

They didn't pioneer it, companies like GPD did. Not shitting in the Steam Deck, love that thing. Just wanting to get the facts straight.

For the consumer multiple platforms sucks. There's already competition for selling steam keys as well. Epic doesn't want to pay other platforms for anything fortnite, anything else they do is to justify why they shouldn't have to pay like every one else.

Oh hell yeah. This shit crazy good

They don't got a problem. Someone on reddit a while ago pushed for epic=bad so now years later people just parrot the same shit over and over like monkeys. These people in their minds are "friends" with steam. They gotta stick up for their buddies on the internet.

Heroic launcher works well with gog and shows what games are supported.

I would argue UE5 enables and encourages bad development practices that lead to the unoptimized mess that "modern graphics" games are right now. Their work is cool, but so many games rely on temporal aliasing for in-game effects now, and UE5 is the common denominator. Steam and GOG have a strong history and userbase. 0% commission is nice, but Steam in particular offers a world of more value than Epic Games Store, including but not limited to a usable fucking user interface (I use [Rare](https://github.com/RareDevs/Rare) to play my EGS library because it's so bad). Steam games are DRM free unless you consider Steam itself a form of DRM. DRM is implemented by the developers of the game, not by the marketplace it's sold on. And I find it strange that you think GOG has a better business model than Steam and will be more competitive long-term. Why do you think so?

Cool Epic Games store and Tim Sweeney are both still peices of shit.

> I find it strange that you think GOG has a better business model than Steam and will be more competitive long-term. Why do you think so? Steam is it's own DRM system. Control (2020) is a perfect example. You can't run that from your steamapps folder due to Steams DRM to verify a purchase license. GoG on the other hand has the same game, usually cheaper, an runs entirely independent of any platform. Not every Steam game is like this, but most major releases are.

You do realize the market share of GOG is about 0.5%, right? That's despite Projekt Red being a beloved developer, the great launcher features, the fairest DRM practices, many years in the business, and so on. It only proves the point that Steam is a monopoly that cannot be disrupted whether you do it nicely like GOG or aggressively like Epic.

Implying review bombing is always warranted is as misguided as it gets. Games regularly get review bombed for something as trivial as having a non-white person for a protagonist.

Source 2 is closed source, however it's absolutely available to third parties. There are a couple non-Valve Source 2 games in development right now.

Steam wins again by doing nothing

Could you point to these games or any documentation on how a developer may reach out to Valve regarding developing in the Source 2 Engine? I was able to find sources for the Source engine, but not Source 2 which Valve has been primarily making games on in the last 10 years. In any case, neither are as widely supported or available as UE5.

Tim, what are you doing here?