@futurebird Google Maps is the hardest to avoid by far, in the meantime I contribute to OSM hoping to be, at some point, good enough to replace it.

@futurebird I have no Google account on this smartphone. I have Google account for my YouTube account, where I post videoes.

@Black_Flag @futurebird This. That's why I still have a Google account.

@hwll@sunny.garden I can't think of a site that's had an SSO option other than Google, Apple, Facebook, or sometimes GitHub or Paypal in years. Maybe Globus or ORCID for academic sites.

It's been years since I've seen one that lets you specify your own OIDC provider.

@futurebird YouTube is one of the only services I'm finding thats to drop. I'll be moving to a de-google-ified phone this year, my primary email is not gmail.

@futurebird Almost every day, I must use Google/Alphabet services for my job. So very many operational documents! I have advocated there for FOSS alternatives, but have gotten no traction in the face of the inconvenience of migrating and the organizational inertia. But as things continue to enshittify, perhaps priorities will change.

@futurebird I try to use Duckduckgo without AI version but for my professional searches it's often too bad (and often also not AI free) and I have to reuse Google.
I do need YT (professional and for fun): I find no alternative. Peertube often freezes and also doesn't have this vast historical archive. And I get TV often without geoblock there.
My mail accounts are Google- and US-free.

@driusan I don't know your use cases, but I meant just like forego the convenience of SSO and use ol fashioned email/password/MFA to authenticate or sign in.

I'm sure I still use Google SSO somewhere still and I *for sure* use github SSO more than I'm happy about, so it's not like I can judge.

@futurebird I am google free and it was long and hard to get there. Gmail was my main email account from 2006 to 2021. I took 2 years + transferring the emails to another account , and erasing every piece of data before deleting it. And it was emotionally not easy because I had liked the service very much at the beginning. So yes, *people do what they can*.

@futurebird I got all my personal and business stuff off of Google … and then had to create a Google account so I could access meetings and files with clients who won’t/can’t get out of the Googlesphere. Sigh.

@kbm0 @robparsons @futurebird I'm hoping for a low-cost alternative, too. I'd love to get a (mostly) European phone with an independent OS, but I can't afford the current possibilities. I do understand that cheap often equals paying with something else, or someone else being exploited, but I'm just not financially there. Also, those phones are all huge, I'd like to get something smaller.

@futurebird https://lemmy.ml/post/41470487

@lionelb @futurebird Are you referring to the Learn Your Land channel? Love that channel.

@futurebird

I spend way to much energy and frustration trying to figure out alternatives to an android device for running my consulting business (mobile payment processing is the big issue). So I'm stuck with an android device which means I'm stuck with a google account.

@BLTpizza @futurebird

Exactly. Razor sharp forensic ecology but linked to profound insights about what it is to be human.

With a bit of autism along the way

@futurebird My Google account was stripped of it's data as much as I could, and now only serves to run the YouTube app on my game console. I don't use Google search either.

@futurebird I'm mostly using my Google accounts for spam and because I need them for my phone. And I use YouTube, but I block the ads and don't save my history.

I haven't used Google to search for years though.

@futurebird Alas, my e-mail is Gmail and I have yet to see a privacy-focused alternative that's actually as advertised. (I'm not very trusting of "privacy-focused" stuff since DuckDuckGo's browser started sending user info to Microsoft, Proton started dabbling with AI, and Mozilla's whole…everything.) And self-hosting just means spending the rest of your life fighting against spam blacklists.

@futurebird i can Not un-Google my Android 10

@futurebird I'm mostly there, I haven't been happy with google map alternatives sadly. That's the last big hurdle for me.