@driusan not to judge in the least, but I've moved I think all of those google third party sign ins to use a personal email, so I believe it's possible. Maybe I'm missing something though. I appreciate that it's convenient if you're already signed in to google

@mariamakesamess my condolences.

@hwll@sunny.garden what? Do you hack in to every site you see to change their oauth settings?

@mensrea @futurebird same. I moved away from it and essentially mothballed it (it forwards emails in case of the rare relevant email). Won't delete it to prevent an account lockout from something I forgot.

Also have a Pixel, but it has GrapheneOS.

I've nearly rid myself of all the FAANG (Facebook, Amazon, Apple, Netflix, Google) companies other than CDN (Content Distribution Network), of course.

@driusan do you mind giving an example? I don't think I've come across one that wouldn't let me use a non-google email to sign in.

@futurebird working on it. One left

@futurebird I have deleted the account some time ago and don't miss it. I am using /e/os on my phone which is nearly completely Google free, works well. Sometimes I use Google search for specific queries. It is still much better than Quant or DuckDuckGo.

@futurebird I do have an account, from the days of google+.

I use newpipe for youtube, but I consider using my account to upload to youtube. Apart from uploading to peertube.

@sibylle

Every time I try to use peertube it freezes

I know the people making it are working very hard, but we need some kind of slush fund to make the bits flow faster.

@futurebird Google Maps is the hardest to avoid by far, in the meantime I contribute to OSM hoping to be, at some point, good enough to replace it.

@futurebird I have no Google account on this smartphone. I have Google account for my YouTube account, where I post videoes.

@Black_Flag @futurebird This. That's why I still have a Google account.

@hwll@sunny.garden I can't think of a site that's had an SSO option other than Google, Apple, Facebook, or sometimes GitHub or Paypal in years. Maybe Globus or ORCID for academic sites.

It's been years since I've seen one that lets you specify your own OIDC provider.

@futurebird YouTube is one of the only services I'm finding thats to drop. I'll be moving to a de-google-ified phone this year, my primary email is not gmail.

@futurebird Almost every day, I must use Google/Alphabet services for my job. So very many operational documents! I have advocated there for FOSS alternatives, but have gotten no traction in the face of the inconvenience of migrating and the organizational inertia. But as things continue to enshittify, perhaps priorities will change.

@futurebird I try to use Duckduckgo without AI version but for my professional searches it's often too bad (and often also not AI free) and I have to reuse Google.
I do need YT (professional and for fun): I find no alternative. Peertube often freezes and also doesn't have this vast historical archive. And I get TV often without geoblock there.
My mail accounts are Google- and US-free.

@driusan I don't know your use cases, but I meant just like forego the convenience of SSO and use ol fashioned email/password/MFA to authenticate or sign in.

I'm sure I still use Google SSO somewhere still and I *for sure* use github SSO more than I'm happy about, so it's not like I can judge.

@futurebird I am google free and it was long and hard to get there. Gmail was my main email account from 2006 to 2021. I took 2 years + transferring the emails to another account , and erasing every piece of data before deleting it. And it was emotionally not easy because I had liked the service very much at the beginning. So yes, *people do what they can*.

@futurebird I got all my personal and business stuff off of Google … and then had to create a Google account so I could access meetings and files with clients who won’t/can’t get out of the Googlesphere. Sigh.

@kbm0 @robparsons @futurebird I'm hoping for a low-cost alternative, too. I'd love to get a (mostly) European phone with an independent OS, but I can't afford the current possibilities. I do understand that cheap often equals paying with something else, or someone else being exploited, but I'm just not financially there. Also, those phones are all huge, I'd like to get something smaller.