@mhoye

No. But I find this all very credible.

@futurebird Luigi turned out to be not very left-wing, plus hatred of health insurance companies cuts across the political spectrum, so that was hard for the right to weaponize.

It was very surreal to listen to right wingers calling for "war" ... when just two months ago Democratic members of the MN legislator were targeted for assassination, one successfully murdered in her own home with her husband.

What do you mean "Now this means war?" this isn't anything new.

If you want to talk about left wing political violence Luigi is right there. Talk about him. That's what that was. It is equally obvious.

@futurebird The funny thing is, he wasn't really even left wing.

@tobinbaker @futurebird Yep, I think more folks are cluing into the false dichotomy that a death on the "right" must have come from the "left", that there's such a thing as further "right". And yeah class warfare is almost assuredly a-political

@MightyRedPanda @tobinbaker

"class warfare is almost assuredly a-political"

I don't know about that.

@futurebird @MightyRedPanda or rather it's a political nonstarter if it doesn't fit into the contemporary culture-war framework

@futurebird It's certainly quite amazing how fast that disappeared from all the media and from most people's minds.

Literally a Democrat was murdered by a right wing killer in the name of the Republican party and just a collective shrug from this country. I wonder if most people even know it happened or if it was swept under the rug that quickly and easily...

It never occurred to me that when I'm pointing out the factual information about who these shooters were it might sound more like a conspiracy theory.

There are a handful of people who have some conspiracy theories about the assassination attempts being "faked." There isn't any evidence to support this.

A disillusioned "super-fan" can be a terrifying thing. Kirk's death falls into a parallel lane. He was ... to the shooter *not right wing enough*

It was very surreal to listen to right wingers calling for "war" ... when just two months ago Democratic members of the MN legislator were targeted for assassination, one successfully murdered in her own home with her husband.

What do you mean "Now this means war?" this isn't anything new.

@futurebird

I will note that most of the media that folk are consuming say that the shooter was "not politically aligned".

@jrconlin @futurebird

I'm hearing a lot of second hand information that he was right wing but no actual proof. I would *like* to believe he was right wing. What do we have on that other than ambiguous memes and a conservative family?

@Phosphenes @jrconlin

A majority of people think that the president was nearly assassinated (twice) by "the left" -- people have largely forgotten the assassination of a Democratic lawmaker. Forgotten that the CDC was shot up just weeks ago, and now the death of a conservative pundit is being blamed on the left as well.

There is a larger pattern here that I'm worried a lot of people are missing.

Or rather there is a big lie that is trying to crystalize.

I was aware that many (if not most) people on the right were not aware that BOTH of the people who tried to assassinate Trump during his campaign were right wingers... but I've discovered that the assumption that these attacks came "from the left" or "from Democrats" is also common among people who are less politically engaged.

When I pointed this out I got an interesting response:

"Are you saying it was a false flag?"

"No." I responded.

@futurebird Being low-information, credulous, and heavily susceptible to propaganda is an essential feature of being an apologist meatshield for the lying propagandists.

For being willing to spin the most implausible of narratives, one wonders why they don't simply do what they claim was done at Sandy Hook, and hire crisis actors to invent their own tragic casus belli. Their groundling grunts don't verify facts.