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DO NOT BUY THE NINTENDO SWITCH 2 | Bearman3600
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First gen’s are hard to find cheap due to how easily exploited they are.And that's the only reason I'm even vaguely considering picking up a Switch 2 around launch. That said, even with a gen 1 Switch, booting into the CFW is just enough of a pain that I don't do it often. Gotta grab the shim for the rail, plug it into something that can deliver the payload... ugh. I miss the days of Wii and PSP homebrew. No online shit to get banned from, no special booting techniques. 3DS cfw came pretty close in terms of ease of use.
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Mainly the price of games and the other price gouging tactics they’re trying outSure, if it's not a good value for you, then don't buy it. Console games have never been cheap, and consoles have generally been affordable (not cheap). IMO, the prices aren't outlandish when you take inflation into account. [Here's an article that goes over it](https://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/every-game-console-price-from-nes-to-switch/#dt-heading-third-generation-systems): - OG NES - $180 in 1985, ~$480 today - SNES - $200 in 1991, ~$415 today - N64, Game Cube, Wii - ~$330, give or take - Switch - ~$440 And [this page lists game prices](https://infographicsite.com/infographic/console-game-prices-inflation-adjusted/): - NES - $146 - N64 - $120 - GameCube - ~$90 - Wii - $80 - Switch - $77 So generally a downward trend. The Switch 2's expected prices are a bit of a correction to $80-90, but still pretty much in line with recent consoles. Here's the image for reference: 
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And that's the only reason I'm even vaguely considering picking up a Switch 2 around launch. That said, even with a gen 1 Switch, booting into the CFW is just enough of a pain that I don't do it often. Gotta grab the shim for the rail, plug it into something that can deliver the payload... ugh. I miss the days of Wii and PSP homebrew. No online shit to get banned from, no special booting techniques. 3DS cfw came pretty close in terms of ease of use.Don’t forget Vita. Thing was king of being opened up in my opinion.
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are... are ''easy to hate reasons'' somehow inherently bad reasons?I wouldn’t say that no. But they are being used to whip people up into a fury effectively with out sharing all the facts. That’s why the video is ridiculously biased. Because if you came at it from a balanced perspective most people aren’t irrational. Nintendos actions while shit, all largely make sense.
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I won't. And not even due to the bad PR. I never bought a Switch. Thought about it, but never got around to it. I guess I'm just not the target audience. Though now in thinking about it, I bet I can pick up a good condition used Switch on the cheap once this comes. Maybe I'll get the first gen Switch after all!I bought a Switch back in the day. Beat BotW and that was fun. Barely touched it since.
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I wouldn’t say that no. But they are being used to whip people up into a fury effectively with out sharing all the facts. That’s why the video is ridiculously biased. Because if you came at it from a balanced perspective most people aren’t irrational. Nintendos actions while shit, all largely make sense.Ah, fair enough.
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Ah, fair enough.Yeah, thank you for your comment. I don’t know if I expressed myself the clearest when I type things that I struggle with getting what I mean into words sometimes.
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i fucking hate all capsI disabled my caps lock button, and my life got _so_ much better.
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Yeah, thank you for your comment. I don’t know if I expressed myself the clearest when I type things that I struggle with getting what I mean into words sometimes.That's just the human condition, but I think you did a good job.
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Sure, if it's not a good value for you, then don't buy it. Console games have never been cheap, and consoles have generally been affordable (not cheap). IMO, the prices aren't outlandish when you take inflation into account. [Here's an article that goes over it](https://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/every-game-console-price-from-nes-to-switch/#dt-heading-third-generation-systems): - OG NES - $180 in 1985, ~$480 today - SNES - $200 in 1991, ~$415 today - N64, Game Cube, Wii - ~$330, give or take - Switch - ~$440 And [this page lists game prices](https://infographicsite.com/infographic/console-game-prices-inflation-adjusted/): - NES - $146 - N64 - $120 - GameCube - ~$90 - Wii - $80 - Switch - $77 So generally a downward trend. The Switch 2's expected prices are a bit of a correction to $80-90, but still pretty much in line with recent consoles. Here's the image for reference: No, I get it. You really don’t need to post an entire breakdown when I can read it on any gaming site. These never seem to take into account that manufacturing games has become much cheaper or that the majority of games are sold digitally which have negligible costs compared to physical. Maybe I’m wrong about that but at the end of the day we are still getting used to $70 when it comes to modern consoles—so Nintendo thinking their games are worth more than that on top of being a generation behind? It’s a shitty look, honestly, especially combined with the other crap that’s come out about pricing since the reveal
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No, I get it. You really don’t need to post an entire breakdown when I can read it on any gaming site. These never seem to take into account that manufacturing games has become much cheaper or that the majority of games are sold digitally which have negligible costs compared to physical. Maybe I’m wrong about that but at the end of the day we are still getting used to $70 when it comes to modern consoles—so Nintendo thinking their games are worth more than that on top of being a generation behind? It’s a shitty look, honestly, especially combined with the other crap that’s come out about pricing since the reveal> manufacturing games has become much cheaper Sure, the physical distribution is cheaper, but the development is way more expensive. That's largely offset by more sales, hence the gradually reducing real price of games. Yeah, it's never fun seeing prices go up, but they tend to stay pretty flat during a console generation. So at the start, they're making more than at the end, when inflation has chipped away at the value they're getting per sale. I'm not saying it's "good" or anything, I also prefer cheaper games, just that it's understandable when looking at pricing history compared to inflation.
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I bought a Switch back in the day. Beat BotW and that was fun. Barely touched it since.
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First gen’s are hard to find cheap due to how easily exploited they are.
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Stop posting this garbage to every community
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Didn't plan to buy one, before the S2 was announced. The number of anti consumer actions they take is amazing. They still hate YouTube. Instead of making their games not suck, they sue anyone who dares to try. They have a handful of console exclusive that even interest me, everything else I'll get in Steam and it'll play better, have cloud save, and a refund policy. I bought a NES in the 80s because it was the most amazing, magical thing. Now I'm at the point of 'Fuck Nintendo, let it fall'
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can afford, absolutely no buy
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No, I get it. You really don’t need to post an entire breakdown when I can read it on any gaming site. These never seem to take into account that manufacturing games has become much cheaper or that the majority of games are sold digitally which have negligible costs compared to physical. Maybe I’m wrong about that but at the end of the day we are still getting used to $70 when it comes to modern consoles—so Nintendo thinking their games are worth more than that on top of being a generation behind? It’s a shitty look, honestly, especially combined with the other crap that’s come out about pricing since the revealYou might be right, but basically everyone is expecting there to be significant features of MKW which are as yet unannounced but will be featured in the upcoming Nintendo direct which is focused on that game specifically. There is certainly an argument to be made about DLC cost being included upfront (and Zelda was already $90 on Switch 1 including the DLC) to avoid splitting up the player base for a game with an online focus. That might not be what they're doing, but my point is there are things they could do to justify the price increase for many players. They also might just do nothing more than what's already been announced, but I doubt it because why then would they do another reveal later?
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I mean, my Switch works, and if Microsoft won't port the Xbox UI to Windows handhelds, then I'll buy a Steam Deck.