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If a person were a time traveler how might that show up in their skeleton, eg in the isotopic analysis of their teeth?

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  • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

    If a person were a time traveler how might that show up in their skeleton, eg in the isotopic analysis of their teeth?

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    @futurebird Chemicals based on diet? Size of person (good nutrition, bigger). We also absorb what’s in the air and water.

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    How do we know what they ate?

    The foods eaten by our ancestors can tell us a lot about their lifestyles and the environments in which they lived. Food has also played a major role in human evolution, particularly when meat became a significant part of the human diet about two million years ago.

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    Carbon dating: https://www.futurelearn.com/info/courses/skeletal-analysis/0/steps/59520

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      I did not!

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      @futurebird

      Apparently; showing JFK baby teeth laced with strontium-90 was persuasive in getting the test ban treaties through.

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        @futurebird Chemicals based on diet? Size of person (good nutrition, bigger). We also absorb what’s in the air and water.

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        How do we know what they ate?

        The foods eaten by our ancestors can tell us a lot about their lifestyles and the environments in which they lived. Food has also played a major role in human evolution, particularly when meat became a significant part of the human diet about two million years ago.

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        The Australian Museum (australian.museum)

        Carbon dating: https://www.futurelearn.com/info/courses/skeletal-analysis/0/steps/59520

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        @CStamp

        The bones carbon date to 4k years ago, but the dental work is modern. The plaque contains DNA from variants of crops no longer commonly grown.

        The reconstructive surgery on the knee is made of 3D printed bone, beautiful work, someday we might do something like that.

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        • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

          If a person were a time traveler how might that show up in their skeleton, eg in the isotopic analysis of their teeth?

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          @futurebird they probably just hum constantly at a very low frequency

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          • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

            If a person were a time traveler how might that show up in their skeleton, eg in the isotopic analysis of their teeth?

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            @futurebird their immune system might look quite interesting indeed.

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            • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

              If a person were a time traveler how might that show up in their skeleton, eg in the isotopic analysis of their teeth?

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              @futurebird depends how much shrimp is in their diet

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                @futurebird depends how much shrimp is in their diet

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                @catmisgivings

                Why shrimp? Did people eat more once?

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                • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                  @CStamp

                  The bones carbon date to 4k years ago, but the dental work is modern. The plaque contains DNA from variants of crops no longer commonly grown.

                  The reconstructive surgery on the knee is made of 3D printed bone, beautiful work, someday we might do something like that.

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                  @futurebird @CStamp There was a scene at the end of the 1968 Planet of the Apes, not involving chemical analysis, where they looked at an artificial heart valve in a human grave as evidence of an ancient human technological civilization.

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                  • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                    @catmisgivings

                    Why shrimp? Did people eat more once?

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                    @futurebird @catmisgivings

                    That seems unlikely given how much shrimp we eat today. It's a lot.

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                      @catmisgivings

                      Why shrimp? Did people eat more once?

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                      @futurebird oh I was just imagining that cesium-137 continues turning up in shrimp
                      https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/20/business/radioactive-shrimp-walmart-recall.html?unlocked_article_code=1.FFA.CwHN.m87yL68TGK2o&smid=nytcore-android-share

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                      • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                        If a person were a time traveler how might that show up in their skeleton, eg in the isotopic analysis of their teeth?

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                        @futurebird@sauropods.win Certain types of surgery and dentistry would be pretty obvious, but not for everyone.

                        Maybe some kinds of microbes that persist after death? If the species on the skeleton are significantly different from other skeletons from that time, it'd be suspicious. Probably not a smoking gun, though.

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                        • jack the nonabrasiveK jack the nonabrasive

                          @futurebird @CStamp There was a scene at the end of the 1968 Planet of the Apes, not involving chemical analysis, where they looked at an artificial heart valve in a human grave as evidence of an ancient human technological civilization.

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                          @karabaic @futurebird @CStamp The point of that scene was to show that humans were weak and fragile, if I remember correctly.

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                            @CStamp

                            The bones carbon date to 4k years ago, but the dental work is modern. The plaque contains DNA from variants of crops no longer commonly grown.

                            The reconstructive surgery on the knee is made of 3D printed bone, beautiful work, someday we might do something like that.

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                            @futurebird @CStamp

                            There are bands across my teeth showing when I started drinking fluoridated water.

                            But that wouldn't tell someone in the late 1800s if someone was a time traveler or if they simply grew up in Colorado.

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                            • Bruce Heerssen :guillotine:B Bruce Heerssen :guillotine:

                              @futurebird @catmisgivings

                              That seems unlikely given how much shrimp we eat today. It's a lot.

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                              @bruce @futurebird I wish I remembered the figure for what proportion of the Lenape diet was fish and seafood at the time the settlers came, but I was astonished. A third? Half? The catch was ridiculously abundant

                              And these guys who came over from England wanted MEAT and perceived that they were gonna starve on Lenape land

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                              • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                                If a person were a time traveler how might that show up in their skeleton, eg in the isotopic analysis of their teeth?

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                                @futurebird If someone had been born after a nuclear war, that would show up in their teeth and bones in terms of much higher levels of radioactive strontium compared to contemporary humans.

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                                • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                                  If a person were a time traveler how might that show up in their skeleton, eg in the isotopic analysis of their teeth?

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                                  @futurebird Fluorine in the teeth; dental work generally. (Orthodontics leave traces! Implants on titanium posts rather more so.)

                                  The other thing is that this kind of thing is generally very coarse; "its diet was C4 plants" has been the result for jaguar skeletal remains. (They were ritual jaguars fed on corn-fed turkeys, far as anyone can tell.) Absolute proof of time travel would take something impossible at tech level like that titanium post.

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                                  • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                                    @CStamp

                                    The bones carbon date to 4k years ago, but the dental work is modern. The plaque contains DNA from variants of crops no longer commonly grown.

                                    The reconstructive surgery on the knee is made of 3D printed bone, beautiful work, someday we might do something like that.

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                                    @futurebird @CStamp There's a scene in Robert J. Sawyer's Neanderthal Parallax where the modern Neanderthal who crosses accidentally into our reality is X-rayed, and they note the reconstructive surgery on his jaw. So some guy got surgically altered to look like a Neanderthal? No, the rest of the bone structure matches too.

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                                      @bruce @futurebird I wish I remembered the figure for what proportion of the Lenape diet was fish and seafood at the time the settlers came, but I was astonished. A third? Half? The catch was ridiculously abundant

                                      And these guys who came over from England wanted MEAT and perceived that they were gonna starve on Lenape land

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                                      @catmisgivings @futurebird
                                      I would eat seafood every day if I could. And if I didn't have to worry about mercury contamination. Oh, and radioactive shrimp.

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                                      • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                                        If a person were a time traveler how might that show up in their skeleton, eg in the isotopic analysis of their teeth?

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                                        @futurebird I’m just imagining a time traveler skeleton showing up, like maybe the secret to time travel is to abandon soft tissue

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                                        • Bruce Heerssen :guillotine:B Bruce Heerssen :guillotine:

                                          @catmisgivings @futurebird
                                          I would eat seafood every day if I could. And if I didn't have to worry about mercury contamination. Oh, and radioactive shrimp.

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                                          @bruce

                                          I'm late to the party but shrimp was the first thing from the sea that started to taste good to me

                                          I love it hot in stews and things like that. The occasional order of popcorn shrimp. I'll still give shrimp cocktail a miss

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