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If a person were a time traveler how might that show up in their skeleton, eg in the isotopic analysis of their teeth?

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  • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

    If a person were a time traveler how might that show up in their skeleton, eg in the isotopic analysis of their teeth?

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    @futurebird depends how much shrimp is in their diet

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      @futurebird depends how much shrimp is in their diet

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      @catmisgivings

      Why shrimp? Did people eat more once?

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      • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

        @CStamp

        The bones carbon date to 4k years ago, but the dental work is modern. The plaque contains DNA from variants of crops no longer commonly grown.

        The reconstructive surgery on the knee is made of 3D printed bone, beautiful work, someday we might do something like that.

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        @futurebird @CStamp There was a scene at the end of the 1968 Planet of the Apes, not involving chemical analysis, where they looked at an artificial heart valve in a human grave as evidence of an ancient human technological civilization.

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        • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

          @catmisgivings

          Why shrimp? Did people eat more once?

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          @futurebird @catmisgivings

          That seems unlikely given how much shrimp we eat today. It's a lot.

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          • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

            @catmisgivings

            Why shrimp? Did people eat more once?

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            @futurebird oh I was just imagining that cesium-137 continues turning up in shrimp
            https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/20/business/radioactive-shrimp-walmart-recall.html?unlocked_article_code=1.FFA.CwHN.m87yL68TGK2o&smid=nytcore-android-share

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            • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

              If a person were a time traveler how might that show up in their skeleton, eg in the isotopic analysis of their teeth?

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              @futurebird@sauropods.win Certain types of surgery and dentistry would be pretty obvious, but not for everyone.

              Maybe some kinds of microbes that persist after death? If the species on the skeleton are significantly different from other skeletons from that time, it'd be suspicious. Probably not a smoking gun, though.

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              • jack the nonabrasiveK jack the nonabrasive

                @futurebird @CStamp There was a scene at the end of the 1968 Planet of the Apes, not involving chemical analysis, where they looked at an artificial heart valve in a human grave as evidence of an ancient human technological civilization.

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                @karabaic @futurebird @CStamp The point of that scene was to show that humans were weak and fragile, if I remember correctly.

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                • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                  @CStamp

                  The bones carbon date to 4k years ago, but the dental work is modern. The plaque contains DNA from variants of crops no longer commonly grown.

                  The reconstructive surgery on the knee is made of 3D printed bone, beautiful work, someday we might do something like that.

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                  @futurebird @CStamp

                  There are bands across my teeth showing when I started drinking fluoridated water.

                  But that wouldn't tell someone in the late 1800s if someone was a time traveler or if they simply grew up in Colorado.

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                  • Bruce Heerssen :guillotine:B Bruce Heerssen :guillotine:

                    @futurebird @catmisgivings

                    That seems unlikely given how much shrimp we eat today. It's a lot.

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                    @bruce @futurebird I wish I remembered the figure for what proportion of the Lenape diet was fish and seafood at the time the settlers came, but I was astonished. A third? Half? The catch was ridiculously abundant

                    And these guys who came over from England wanted MEAT and perceived that they were gonna starve on Lenape land

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                    • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                      If a person were a time traveler how might that show up in their skeleton, eg in the isotopic analysis of their teeth?

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                      @futurebird If someone had been born after a nuclear war, that would show up in their teeth and bones in terms of much higher levels of radioactive strontium compared to contemporary humans.

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                      • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                        If a person were a time traveler how might that show up in their skeleton, eg in the isotopic analysis of their teeth?

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                        @futurebird Fluorine in the teeth; dental work generally. (Orthodontics leave traces! Implants on titanium posts rather more so.)

                        The other thing is that this kind of thing is generally very coarse; "its diet was C4 plants" has been the result for jaguar skeletal remains. (They were ritual jaguars fed on corn-fed turkeys, far as anyone can tell.) Absolute proof of time travel would take something impossible at tech level like that titanium post.

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                        • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                          @CStamp

                          The bones carbon date to 4k years ago, but the dental work is modern. The plaque contains DNA from variants of crops no longer commonly grown.

                          The reconstructive surgery on the knee is made of 3D printed bone, beautiful work, someday we might do something like that.

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                          @futurebird @CStamp There's a scene in Robert J. Sawyer's Neanderthal Parallax where the modern Neanderthal who crosses accidentally into our reality is X-rayed, and they note the reconstructive surgery on his jaw. So some guy got surgically altered to look like a Neanderthal? No, the rest of the bone structure matches too.

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                            @bruce @futurebird I wish I remembered the figure for what proportion of the Lenape diet was fish and seafood at the time the settlers came, but I was astonished. A third? Half? The catch was ridiculously abundant

                            And these guys who came over from England wanted MEAT and perceived that they were gonna starve on Lenape land

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                            @catmisgivings @futurebird
                            I would eat seafood every day if I could. And if I didn't have to worry about mercury contamination. Oh, and radioactive shrimp.

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                            • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                              If a person were a time traveler how might that show up in their skeleton, eg in the isotopic analysis of their teeth?

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                              @futurebird I’m just imagining a time traveler skeleton showing up, like maybe the secret to time travel is to abandon soft tissue

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                              • Bruce Heerssen :guillotine:B Bruce Heerssen :guillotine:

                                @catmisgivings @futurebird
                                I would eat seafood every day if I could. And if I didn't have to worry about mercury contamination. Oh, and radioactive shrimp.

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                                @bruce

                                I'm late to the party but shrimp was the first thing from the sea that started to taste good to me

                                I love it hot in stews and things like that. The occasional order of popcorn shrimp. I'll still give shrimp cocktail a miss

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                                • BodhipaksaB Bodhipaksa

                                  @karabaic @futurebird @CStamp The point of that scene was to show that humans were weak and fragile, if I remember correctly.

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                                  @bodhipaksa @futurebird @CStamp I think that's right. Zaius denied the valves were what Taylor said they were, an interesting kind of doublethink.

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                                    @futurebird I’m just imagining a time traveler skeleton showing up, like maybe the secret to time travel is to abandon soft tissue

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                                    @Moss @futurebird or the opposite...

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                                    @anna @futzle@old.mermaid.town there was a humorous sci fi story in which teleportation not only doesn’t send your clothes, it also doesn’t send your bones. Those show up later. So they find a way to cope. I had a comic book adaptation of this story when I was a kid! Look for “Rabbits to the Moon” by Raymond Banks, in this collection: https://archive.org/stream/A_Decade_of_Fantasy_and_Science_Fiction_1960_ed._Robert_P_Mills/A_Decade_of_Fantasy_and_Science_Fiction_1960_ed._Robert_P_Mills_djvu.txt

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                                    • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                                      If a person were a time traveler how might that show up in their skeleton, eg in the isotopic analysis of their teeth?

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                                      @futurebird

                                      Microplastics?

                                      I do remember one science fiction story where a human fossil was obviously a time traveller, because:

                                      A) a human skeleton was found in Cretaceous rock, 60 odd million years before anything human evolved

                                      B) the scientist studying the fossil compared an x-ray of the unique pattern of bumps inside the skull, and found a modern human who matched 100%...himself.

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                                        @futurebird

                                        Microplastics?

                                        I do remember one science fiction story where a human fossil was obviously a time traveller, because:

                                        A) a human skeleton was found in Cretaceous rock, 60 odd million years before anything human evolved

                                        B) the scientist studying the fossil compared an x-ray of the unique pattern of bumps inside the skull, and found a modern human who matched 100%...himself.

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                                        @davidtheeviloverlord

                                        Well, at least one would know you'd have exciting times in your future.

                                        60 million years ago is an interesting period in ant evolution. The ancestor of Titanomyrma was probably around and there are so many gaps in the preservation of insects you could see some really amazing things.

                                        Before ending up like a fossil...

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                                        • CatC Cat

                                          @bruce

                                          I'm late to the party but shrimp was the first thing from the sea that started to taste good to me

                                          I love it hot in stews and things like that. The occasional order of popcorn shrimp. I'll still give shrimp cocktail a miss

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                                          @catmisgivings
                                          My favorite way to prepare shrimp is lightly sautéed with butter, garlic, and course ground black pepper. But I'll eat it no matter how it's prepared. Please don't overcook it, though.

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