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We aren't even asking why ICE is even at these protests full of white ICU nurses and moms in vans.

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  • Peter BrownP Peter Brown

    @futurebird Pretti wasn’t murdered at a protest.
    There were about half a dozen private citizens spread around the street watching and filming the activities of ICE.
    The conflict was precipitated by an officer pushing a woman to the ground, Pretti attempting to help her up but then finding himself pepper sprayed and under a pile-on of 8 officers where he was finally executed by five bullets in the back.
    No placards. No chants.

    The protests and the placards were the previous day.

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    @peterbrown

    So. "Don't help anyone and you won't get shot" ?

    Yeah. No.

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    • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

      We aren't even asking why ICE is even at these protests full of white ICU nurses and moms in vans. Like, why are they there? Looking for a Mexican drug gang in a suburban roundabout? Finding the secret foreign terror hiding in the trunk of a minivan?

      They aren't even pretending to do "immigration enforcement" they're just suppressing dissent. Lower your head and put that sign down and they will go away. Say "yes officer" and "no officer" and show your papers and no one gets dead.*

      *sarcasm

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      @futurebird There must be some ICE who are not violent, racist thugs who are horrified watching their mates shoot unarmed people. They must have partners or friends who they've told about their concerns. WHERE ARE THEY?

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      • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

        We aren't even asking why ICE is even at these protests full of white ICU nurses and moms in vans. Like, why are they there? Looking for a Mexican drug gang in a suburban roundabout? Finding the secret foreign terror hiding in the trunk of a minivan?

        They aren't even pretending to do "immigration enforcement" they're just suppressing dissent. Lower your head and put that sign down and they will go away. Say "yes officer" and "no officer" and show your papers and no one gets dead.*

        *sarcasm

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        @futurebird

        We continue to ignore who funds Trump’s regime.

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        The fossil fuel industry spent millions getting protests criminalized in the UK.

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        The fossil fuel industry funds this fascist movement with the same goals; criminalizing all protest.
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        • HeatherMJH HeatherMJ

          @futurebird There must be some ICE who are not violent, racist thugs who are horrified watching their mates shoot unarmed people. They must have partners or friends who they've told about their concerns. WHERE ARE THEY?

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          @HeatherMJ

          They don't exist. There are just more of them waiting for their chance to "shoot a liberal" because their bosses said they could. Because they think there will be no consequences.

          The problem is at some point one gets so angry that you don't have room to feel fear anymore. This is supposed to scare everyone into going home. But I do not think it will work at all.

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          • J James Widman

            @futurebird (it looks like one explanation for the ICE presence is that it could be designed to put pressure on Minnesota officials to comply with Bondi's demands in this letter, but then that just kicks the can down to, "what are they trying to accomplish if these demands are satisfied?".)

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            @futurebird related: Marc Elias's blog, Democracy Docket, says the admin has been trying to get voter rolls from several states via the courts, but so far they've been unsuccessful:
            https://www.democracydocket.com/news-alerts/attorney-general-bondi-minnesota-voter-rolls-border-patrol-fatal-shooting/

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            • HeatherMJH HeatherMJ

              @futurebird There must be some ICE who are not violent, racist thugs who are horrified watching their mates shoot unarmed people. They must have partners or friends who they've told about their concerns. WHERE ARE THEY?

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              @HeatherMJ @futurebird Genuinely, this might be helpful for understanding the matter:
              https://cdn.crimethinc.com/assets/books/no-wall-they-can-build/no-wall-they-can-build_screen_two_page_view.pdf
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              • J James Widman

                @futurebird interesting puzzle piece in this letter from Pam Bondi to Gov. Wals:
                https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2026/01/mn_letter_1.24.26.pdf

                ...on page 3, quote:

                > Third, allow the Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice to access voter rolls to confirm that Minnesota’s voter registration practices comply with federal law as authorized by the Civil Rights Act of 1960.

                (via https://bsky.app/profile/chrismurphyct.bsky.social/post/3md7idhl3mc23 )

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                @JamesWidman@mastodon.social @futurebird@sauropods.win No doubt a part of the overall puzzle but not unique to Minnesota as Bondi has been busy doing this to all the states. Marc Elias talks about it frequently.

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                • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                  @peterbrown

                  So. "Don't help anyone and you won't get shot" ?

                  Yeah. No.

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                  @futurebird @peterbrown according to the news agents podcast (they did two episodes from there) there is a network keeping eyes on unfamiliar cars, logging licence plates, turn up with whistles as soon as ice is spotted anywhere. They're doing an amazing job. And clearly it is freaking ice out.
                  https://pca.st/episode/cbf7fa24-0b9c-44c4-b3af-8302a1e85ebc honestly worth a listen.
                  Another guy is using a long lens to document all the dark flight deportations.

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                  • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                    We aren't even asking why ICE is even at these protests full of white ICU nurses and moms in vans. Like, why are they there? Looking for a Mexican drug gang in a suburban roundabout? Finding the secret foreign terror hiding in the trunk of a minivan?

                    They aren't even pretending to do "immigration enforcement" they're just suppressing dissent. Lower your head and put that sign down and they will go away. Say "yes officer" and "no officer" and show your papers and no one gets dead.*

                    *sarcasm

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                    @futurebird @julesbl

                    I think Scott Martin said it,

                    "If the US were a geopolitical rival, the headlines would be like 'US Secret Police Execute Second Dissident in the Streets as Miltarised Occupation Enters Sixth Week'"

                    - pinched from Carole Cadwalladr's "How to survive the Broligarchy" Substack.

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                    • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                      @HeatherMJ

                      They don't exist. There are just more of them waiting for their chance to "shoot a liberal" because their bosses said they could. Because they think there will be no consequences.

                      The problem is at some point one gets so angry that you don't have room to feel fear anymore. This is supposed to scare everyone into going home. But I do not think it will work at all.

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                      @futurebird I am in awe of Minnesotans

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                      • HeatherMJH HeatherMJ

                        @futurebird There must be some ICE who are not violent, racist thugs who are horrified watching their mates shoot unarmed people. They must have partners or friends who they've told about their concerns. WHERE ARE THEY?

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                        @HeatherMJ @futurebird they resigned
                        though there have been some whistleblowers too

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                        • FragarachF Fragarach

                          @futurebird @julesbl

                          I think Scott Martin said it,

                          "If the US were a geopolitical rival, the headlines would be like 'US Secret Police Execute Second Dissident in the Streets as Miltarised Occupation Enters Sixth Week'"

                          - pinched from Carole Cadwalladr's "How to survive the Broligarchy" Substack.

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                          @Fragarach @futurebird @julesbl
                          "Masked gunmen of the embattled government's auxiliary continue to rampage"

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                          • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                            We aren't even asking why ICE is even at these protests full of white ICU nurses and moms in vans. Like, why are they there? Looking for a Mexican drug gang in a suburban roundabout? Finding the secret foreign terror hiding in the trunk of a minivan?

                            They aren't even pretending to do "immigration enforcement" they're just suppressing dissent. Lower your head and put that sign down and they will go away. Say "yes officer" and "no officer" and show your papers and no one gets dead.*

                            *sarcasm

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                            @futurebird
                            The “white” inhabitants of Disneyland
                            are learning what blacks, natives, and other minorities have been suffering for years. Repression has also knocked on their door.

                            Every horror eventually passes,
                            perhaps in 2028.

                            But I am sure that the ‘white’ people
                            will not learn the lesson of history,
                            if in the future they get rid of the current fascists.

                            They will go back to being what they were.
                            Am I cynical?
                            Yes, life teaches me to be...
                            every day.

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                            • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                              We aren't even asking why ICE is even at these protests full of white ICU nurses and moms in vans. Like, why are they there? Looking for a Mexican drug gang in a suburban roundabout? Finding the secret foreign terror hiding in the trunk of a minivan?

                              They aren't even pretending to do "immigration enforcement" they're just suppressing dissent. Lower your head and put that sign down and they will go away. Say "yes officer" and "no officer" and show your papers and no one gets dead.*

                              *sarcasm

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                              @futurebird
                              Most will let the entire world burn, destroy the future for their children, rather than acknowledge that they have to change or do the work by facing reality.
                              Apathy and ego tells them whatever they need to not have to do or change a thing & carry on as usual. They refuse to live in reality or face the truth. Ignorance is bliss to them. I think these apathetic folks are the majority & it’s time they were antagonized more.

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                              • Tim Ward ⭐🇪🇺🔶  #FBPET Tim Ward ⭐🇪🇺🔶 #FBPE

                                @futurebird "Show your papers"?

                                That's something you only have to do in repressive police states, no?

                                In the UK there is no requirement to even *have* any "papers" that you could "show" (not everybody has a passport or driving licence).

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                                @TimWardCam @futurebird Sounds very much like "Ausweis Bitte!"

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                                  @TimWardCam @futurebird Sounds very much like "Ausweis Bitte!"

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                                  @wanwizard @TimWardCam @futurebird Ja, besser auf Deutsch

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                                  • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                                    We aren't even asking why ICE is even at these protests full of white ICU nurses and moms in vans. Like, why are they there? Looking for a Mexican drug gang in a suburban roundabout? Finding the secret foreign terror hiding in the trunk of a minivan?

                                    They aren't even pretending to do "immigration enforcement" they're just suppressing dissent. Lower your head and put that sign down and they will go away. Say "yes officer" and "no officer" and show your papers and no one gets dead.*

                                    *sarcasm

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                                    @futurebird

                                    “Lower your head and put that sign down and they will go away.”

                                    German pastor Martin Niemöller had thoughts about that strategy after WWII.

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                                      @TimWardCam @futurebird Sounds very much like "Ausweis Bitte!"

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                                      @wanwizard @TimWardCam

                                      To be honest I don't think they care about the papers much. ICE throws a fit if you don't have papers to show, but they also will not look at any papers someone might have.

                                      We have multiple stories of them ignoring the paperwork when people try to show it to them.

                                      We can't rule out the possibility that this is because they simply cannot read.

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                                        We aren't even asking why ICE is even at these protests full of white ICU nurses and moms in vans. Like, why are they there? Looking for a Mexican drug gang in a suburban roundabout? Finding the secret foreign terror hiding in the trunk of a minivan?

                                        They aren't even pretending to do "immigration enforcement" they're just suppressing dissent. Lower your head and put that sign down and they will go away. Say "yes officer" and "no officer" and show your papers and no one gets dead.*

                                        *sarcasm

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                                        @futurebird

                                        ICE Just supressing dissent.

                                        I guess you are a staunch maga fascist supporter...

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                                        • K Kerplunk

                                          @futurebird

                                          ICE Just supressing dissent.

                                          I guess you are a staunch maga fascist supporter...

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                                          @Kerplunk

                                          I didn't think anyone would find that last paragraph a reasonable suggestion. I am so disgusted with the idea of behaving that way that I didn't think I'd need to say that under no circumstances should you feel compelled to put your sign away, put your head down, say "yes officer" and "no officer" and meekly show your papers hoping that this could spare you a beating.

                                          And really why bother? It might not even work.

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