We aren't even asking why ICE is even at these protests full of white ICU nurses and moms in vans.
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@futurebird @peterbrown according to the news agents podcast (they did two episodes from there) there is a network keeping eyes on unfamiliar cars, logging licence plates, turn up with whistles as soon as ice is spotted anywhere. They're doing an amazing job. And clearly it is freaking ice out.
https://pca.st/episode/cbf7fa24-0b9c-44c4-b3af-8302a1e85ebc honestly worth a listen.
Another guy is using a long lens to document all the dark flight deportations. -
We aren't even asking why ICE is even at these protests full of white ICU nurses and moms in vans. Like, why are they there? Looking for a Mexican drug gang in a suburban roundabout? Finding the secret foreign terror hiding in the trunk of a minivan?
They aren't even pretending to do "immigration enforcement" they're just suppressing dissent. Lower your head and put that sign down and they will go away. Say "yes officer" and "no officer" and show your papers and no one gets dead.*
*sarcasm
I think Scott Martin said it,
"If the US were a geopolitical rival, the headlines would be like 'US Secret Police Execute Second Dissident in the Streets as Miltarised Occupation Enters Sixth Week'"
- pinched from Carole Cadwalladr's "How to survive the Broligarchy" Substack.
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They don't exist. There are just more of them waiting for their chance to "shoot a liberal" because their bosses said they could. Because they think there will be no consequences.
The problem is at some point one gets so angry that you don't have room to feel fear anymore. This is supposed to scare everyone into going home. But I do not think it will work at all.
@futurebird I am in awe of Minnesotans
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@futurebird There must be some ICE who are not violent, racist thugs who are horrified watching their mates shoot unarmed people. They must have partners or friends who they've told about their concerns. WHERE ARE THEY?
@HeatherMJ @futurebird they resigned
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I think Scott Martin said it,
"If the US were a geopolitical rival, the headlines would be like 'US Secret Police Execute Second Dissident in the Streets as Miltarised Occupation Enters Sixth Week'"
- pinched from Carole Cadwalladr's "How to survive the Broligarchy" Substack.
@Fragarach @futurebird @julesbl
"Masked gunmen of the embattled government's auxiliary continue to rampage" -
We aren't even asking why ICE is even at these protests full of white ICU nurses and moms in vans. Like, why are they there? Looking for a Mexican drug gang in a suburban roundabout? Finding the secret foreign terror hiding in the trunk of a minivan?
They aren't even pretending to do "immigration enforcement" they're just suppressing dissent. Lower your head and put that sign down and they will go away. Say "yes officer" and "no officer" and show your papers and no one gets dead.*
*sarcasm
@futurebird
The “white” inhabitants of Disneyland
are learning what blacks, natives, and other minorities have been suffering for years. Repression has also knocked on their door.Every horror eventually passes,
perhaps in 2028.But I am sure that the ‘white’ people
will not learn the lesson of history,
if in the future they get rid of the current fascists.They will go back to being what they were.
Am I cynical?
Yes, life teaches me to be...
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We aren't even asking why ICE is even at these protests full of white ICU nurses and moms in vans. Like, why are they there? Looking for a Mexican drug gang in a suburban roundabout? Finding the secret foreign terror hiding in the trunk of a minivan?
They aren't even pretending to do "immigration enforcement" they're just suppressing dissent. Lower your head and put that sign down and they will go away. Say "yes officer" and "no officer" and show your papers and no one gets dead.*
*sarcasm
@futurebird
Most will let the entire world burn, destroy the future for their children, rather than acknowledge that they have to change or do the work by facing reality.
Apathy and ego tells them whatever they need to not have to do or change a thing & carry on as usual. They refuse to live in reality or face the truth. Ignorance is bliss to them. I think these apathetic folks are the majority & it’s time they were antagonized more. -
@futurebird "Show your papers"?
That's something you only have to do in repressive police states, no?
In the UK there is no requirement to even *have* any "papers" that you could "show" (not everybody has a passport or driving licence).
@TimWardCam @futurebird Sounds very much like "Ausweis Bitte!"
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@TimWardCam @futurebird Sounds very much like "Ausweis Bitte!"
@wanwizard @TimWardCam @futurebird Ja, besser auf Deutsch
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We aren't even asking why ICE is even at these protests full of white ICU nurses and moms in vans. Like, why are they there? Looking for a Mexican drug gang in a suburban roundabout? Finding the secret foreign terror hiding in the trunk of a minivan?
They aren't even pretending to do "immigration enforcement" they're just suppressing dissent. Lower your head and put that sign down and they will go away. Say "yes officer" and "no officer" and show your papers and no one gets dead.*
*sarcasm
“Lower your head and put that sign down and they will go away.”
German pastor Martin Niemöller had thoughts about that strategy after WWII.
Martin Niemöller: "First they came for the Socialists..." | Holocaust Encyclopedia
Learn about the origins and legacy of Pastor Martin Niemöller's famous postwar words, “First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out…”
Holocaust Encyclopedia (encyclopedia.ushmm.org)
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@TimWardCam @futurebird Sounds very much like "Ausweis Bitte!"
To be honest I don't think they care about the papers much. ICE throws a fit if you don't have papers to show, but they also will not look at any papers someone might have.
We have multiple stories of them ignoring the paperwork when people try to show it to them.
We can't rule out the possibility that this is because they simply cannot read.
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We aren't even asking why ICE is even at these protests full of white ICU nurses and moms in vans. Like, why are they there? Looking for a Mexican drug gang in a suburban roundabout? Finding the secret foreign terror hiding in the trunk of a minivan?
They aren't even pretending to do "immigration enforcement" they're just suppressing dissent. Lower your head and put that sign down and they will go away. Say "yes officer" and "no officer" and show your papers and no one gets dead.*
*sarcasm
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I didn't think anyone would find that last paragraph a reasonable suggestion. I am so disgusted with the idea of behaving that way that I didn't think I'd need to say that under no circumstances should you feel compelled to put your sign away, put your head down, say "yes officer" and "no officer" and meekly show your papers hoping that this could spare you a beating.
And really why bother? It might not even work.
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To be honest I don't think they care about the papers much. ICE throws a fit if you don't have papers to show, but they also will not look at any papers someone might have.
We have multiple stories of them ignoring the paperwork when people try to show it to them.
We can't rule out the possibility that this is because they simply cannot read.
I'm not just saying "they can't read" to be mean. (But it is a nice bonus.) Understanding paperwork takes not just literacy but training. I think the "ICE officers" in their home-made Halloween costume uniforms from Temu, probably do not have even the training of police academy recruit shadowing a real officer to learn the beat.
They seem to have been told not to even try to read any papers as they have not hired people who can learn those skills.
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I'm not just saying "they can't read" to be mean. (But it is a nice bonus.) Understanding paperwork takes not just literacy but training. I think the "ICE officers" in their home-made Halloween costume uniforms from Temu, probably do not have even the training of police academy recruit shadowing a real officer to learn the beat.
They seem to have been told not to even try to read any papers as they have not hired people who can learn those skills.
@futurebird @wanwizard @TimWardCam
It's not part of the plan for there to be anything you can do so they leave you alone. Nobody who joined ICE signed up for that. -
They don't exist. There are just more of them waiting for their chance to "shoot a liberal" because their bosses said they could. Because they think there will be no consequences.
The problem is at some point one gets so angry that you don't have room to feel fear anymore. This is supposed to scare everyone into going home. But I do not think it will work at all.
I agree.
We are but animals, ones that can plan and feel emotions and can be deeply moved by advanced thought & these emotions, but animals nevertheless.
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@futurebird "Show your papers"?
That's something you only have to do in repressive police states, no?
In the UK there is no requirement to even *have* any "papers" that you could "show" (not everybody has a passport or driving licence).
@TimWardCam @futurebird That's good to know, though the UK is also a repressive police state for other reasons -
We aren't even asking why ICE is even at these protests full of white ICU nurses and moms in vans. Like, why are they there? Looking for a Mexican drug gang in a suburban roundabout? Finding the secret foreign terror hiding in the trunk of a minivan?
They aren't even pretending to do "immigration enforcement" they're just suppressing dissent. Lower your head and put that sign down and they will go away. Say "yes officer" and "no officer" and show your papers and no one gets dead.*
*sarcasm
@futurebird It's not that ICE is at protests, it's that observers are at ICE kidnappings/attempts. We aren't exaggerating when we call this an occupation. The kidnap squads are roaming all over the state, and densest in Minneapolis. This particular one was apparently actually Border Patrol, but they're all getting called ICE as shorthand.
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To be honest I don't think they care about the papers much. ICE throws a fit if you don't have papers to show, but they also will not look at any papers someone might have.
We have multiple stories of them ignoring the paperwork when people try to show it to them.
We can't rule out the possibility that this is because they simply cannot read.
In that respect, #ICE looks more like a part of a Stalinist terror machine: quotas matter. The terror is in the numbers, and in you as a person simply evaporizing.
Nazis prided themselves of murdering people for precisely the "sufficient reasons" they had manufactured before, and stating the "appropriate" reason to murder you was important. They hadn't learned yet that truly arbitrary terror is even more powerful.
ICE has.
