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We aren't even asking why ICE is even at these protests full of white ICU nurses and moms in vans.

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  • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

    We aren't even asking why ICE is even at these protests full of white ICU nurses and moms in vans. Like, why are they there? Looking for a Mexican drug gang in a suburban roundabout? Finding the secret foreign terror hiding in the trunk of a minivan?

    They aren't even pretending to do "immigration enforcement" they're just suppressing dissent. Lower your head and put that sign down and they will go away. Say "yes officer" and "no officer" and show your papers and no one gets dead.*

    *sarcasm

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    @futurebird
    The “white” inhabitants of Disneyland
    are learning what blacks, natives, and other minorities have been suffering for years. Repression has also knocked on their door.

    Every horror eventually passes,
    perhaps in 2028.

    But I am sure that the ‘white’ people
    will not learn the lesson of history,
    if in the future they get rid of the current fascists.

    They will go back to being what they were.
    Am I cynical?
    Yes, life teaches me to be...
    every day.

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    • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

      We aren't even asking why ICE is even at these protests full of white ICU nurses and moms in vans. Like, why are they there? Looking for a Mexican drug gang in a suburban roundabout? Finding the secret foreign terror hiding in the trunk of a minivan?

      They aren't even pretending to do "immigration enforcement" they're just suppressing dissent. Lower your head and put that sign down and they will go away. Say "yes officer" and "no officer" and show your papers and no one gets dead.*

      *sarcasm

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      @futurebird
      Most will let the entire world burn, destroy the future for their children, rather than acknowledge that they have to change or do the work by facing reality.
      Apathy and ego tells them whatever they need to not have to do or change a thing & carry on as usual. They refuse to live in reality or face the truth. Ignorance is bliss to them. I think these apathetic folks are the majority & it’s time they were antagonized more.

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      • Tim Ward ⭐🇪🇺🔶  #FBPET Tim Ward ⭐🇪🇺🔶 #FBPE

        @futurebird "Show your papers"?

        That's something you only have to do in repressive police states, no?

        In the UK there is no requirement to even *have* any "papers" that you could "show" (not everybody has a passport or driving licence).

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        @TimWardCam @futurebird Sounds very much like "Ausweis Bitte!"

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          @TimWardCam @futurebird Sounds very much like "Ausweis Bitte!"

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          @wanwizard @TimWardCam @futurebird Ja, besser auf Deutsch

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          • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

            We aren't even asking why ICE is even at these protests full of white ICU nurses and moms in vans. Like, why are they there? Looking for a Mexican drug gang in a suburban roundabout? Finding the secret foreign terror hiding in the trunk of a minivan?

            They aren't even pretending to do "immigration enforcement" they're just suppressing dissent. Lower your head and put that sign down and they will go away. Say "yes officer" and "no officer" and show your papers and no one gets dead.*

            *sarcasm

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            @futurebird

            “Lower your head and put that sign down and they will go away.”

            German pastor Martin Niemöller had thoughts about that strategy after WWII.

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            Learn about the origins and legacy of Pastor Martin Niemöller's famous postwar words, “First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out…”

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              @TimWardCam @futurebird Sounds very much like "Ausweis Bitte!"

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              @wanwizard @TimWardCam

              To be honest I don't think they care about the papers much. ICE throws a fit if you don't have papers to show, but they also will not look at any papers someone might have.

              We have multiple stories of them ignoring the paperwork when people try to show it to them.

              We can't rule out the possibility that this is because they simply cannot read.

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              • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                We aren't even asking why ICE is even at these protests full of white ICU nurses and moms in vans. Like, why are they there? Looking for a Mexican drug gang in a suburban roundabout? Finding the secret foreign terror hiding in the trunk of a minivan?

                They aren't even pretending to do "immigration enforcement" they're just suppressing dissent. Lower your head and put that sign down and they will go away. Say "yes officer" and "no officer" and show your papers and no one gets dead.*

                *sarcasm

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                @futurebird

                ICE Just supressing dissent.

                I guess you are a staunch maga fascist supporter...

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                  @futurebird

                  ICE Just supressing dissent.

                  I guess you are a staunch maga fascist supporter...

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                  @Kerplunk

                  I didn't think anyone would find that last paragraph a reasonable suggestion. I am so disgusted with the idea of behaving that way that I didn't think I'd need to say that under no circumstances should you feel compelled to put your sign away, put your head down, say "yes officer" and "no officer" and meekly show your papers hoping that this could spare you a beating.

                  And really why bother? It might not even work.

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                  • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                    @wanwizard @TimWardCam

                    To be honest I don't think they care about the papers much. ICE throws a fit if you don't have papers to show, but they also will not look at any papers someone might have.

                    We have multiple stories of them ignoring the paperwork when people try to show it to them.

                    We can't rule out the possibility that this is because they simply cannot read.

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                    @wanwizard @TimWardCam

                    I'm not just saying "they can't read" to be mean. (But it is a nice bonus.) Understanding paperwork takes not just literacy but training. I think the "ICE officers" in their home-made Halloween costume uniforms from Temu, probably do not have even the training of police academy recruit shadowing a real officer to learn the beat.

                    They seem to have been told not to even try to read any papers as they have not hired people who can learn those skills.

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                    • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                      @wanwizard @TimWardCam

                      I'm not just saying "they can't read" to be mean. (But it is a nice bonus.) Understanding paperwork takes not just literacy but training. I think the "ICE officers" in their home-made Halloween costume uniforms from Temu, probably do not have even the training of police academy recruit shadowing a real officer to learn the beat.

                      They seem to have been told not to even try to read any papers as they have not hired people who can learn those skills.

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                      @futurebird @wanwizard @TimWardCam
                      It's not part of the plan for there to be anything you can do so they leave you alone. Nobody who joined ICE signed up for that.

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                      • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                        @HeatherMJ

                        They don't exist. There are just more of them waiting for their chance to "shoot a liberal" because their bosses said they could. Because they think there will be no consequences.

                        The problem is at some point one gets so angry that you don't have room to feel fear anymore. This is supposed to scare everyone into going home. But I do not think it will work at all.

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                        @futurebird @HeatherMJ

                        I agree.

                        We are but animals, ones that can plan and feel emotions and can be deeply moved by advanced thought & these emotions, but animals nevertheless.

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                        • Tim Ward ⭐🇪🇺🔶  #FBPET Tim Ward ⭐🇪🇺🔶 #FBPE

                          @futurebird "Show your papers"?

                          That's something you only have to do in repressive police states, no?

                          In the UK there is no requirement to even *have* any "papers" that you could "show" (not everybody has a passport or driving licence).

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                          @TimWardCam @futurebird That's good to know, though the UK is also a repressive police state for other reasons
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                          • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                            We aren't even asking why ICE is even at these protests full of white ICU nurses and moms in vans. Like, why are they there? Looking for a Mexican drug gang in a suburban roundabout? Finding the secret foreign terror hiding in the trunk of a minivan?

                            They aren't even pretending to do "immigration enforcement" they're just suppressing dissent. Lower your head and put that sign down and they will go away. Say "yes officer" and "no officer" and show your papers and no one gets dead.*

                            *sarcasm

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                            @futurebird It's not that ICE is at protests, it's that observers are at ICE kidnappings/attempts. We aren't exaggerating when we call this an occupation. The kidnap squads are roaming all over the state, and densest in Minneapolis. This particular one was apparently actually Border Patrol, but they're all getting called ICE as shorthand.

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                              @futurebird

                              ICE Just supressing dissent.

                              I guess you are a staunch maga fascist supporter...

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                              @Kerplunk @futurebird She was saying that as a criticism, not an endorsement
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                              • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                                @wanwizard @TimWardCam

                                To be honest I don't think they care about the papers much. ICE throws a fit if you don't have papers to show, but they also will not look at any papers someone might have.

                                We have multiple stories of them ignoring the paperwork when people try to show it to them.

                                We can't rule out the possibility that this is because they simply cannot read.

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                                @futurebird

                                In that respect, #ICE looks more like a part of a Stalinist terror machine: quotas matter. The terror is in the numbers, and in you as a person simply evaporizing.

                                Nazis prided themselves of murdering people for precisely the "sufficient reasons" they had manufactured before, and stating the "appropriate" reason to murder you was important. They hadn't learned yet that truly arbitrary terror is even more powerful.

                                ICE has.

                                @wanwizard @TimWardCam

                                #USpol

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                                • FeznanderF Feznander

                                  @futurebird It's not that ICE is at protests, it's that observers are at ICE kidnappings/attempts. We aren't exaggerating when we call this an occupation. The kidnap squads are roaming all over the state, and densest in Minneapolis. This particular one was apparently actually Border Patrol, but they're all getting called ICE as shorthand.

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                                  @futurebird They're brutalizing brown targets everywhere, but they've reserved the worst of the violence against white observers for Minneapolis, because it's the city that they and their base hate the most by name, and also where people look the most like "activists", so violence there suits their content creation mill the best

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                                  • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                                    We aren't even asking why ICE is even at these protests full of white ICU nurses and moms in vans. Like, why are they there? Looking for a Mexican drug gang in a suburban roundabout? Finding the secret foreign terror hiding in the trunk of a minivan?

                                    They aren't even pretending to do "immigration enforcement" they're just suppressing dissent. Lower your head and put that sign down and they will go away. Say "yes officer" and "no officer" and show your papers and no one gets dead.*

                                    *sarcasm

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                                    @futurebird You have it backwards. The rioters are showing up when ICE is enforcing immigration policy. Not sure where you are from, but you are being gaslit by your corporate media.

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                                    • FeznanderF Feznander

                                      @futurebird It's not that ICE is at protests, it's that observers are at ICE kidnappings/attempts. We aren't exaggerating when we call this an occupation. The kidnap squads are roaming all over the state, and densest in Minneapolis. This particular one was apparently actually Border Patrol, but they're all getting called ICE as shorthand.

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                                      @feznander @futurebird Yes. This wasn’t a protest. This was a bunch of people who showed up to be witnesses at an ICE (or CBP) kidnapping attempt. They do it in hopes that their presence will be a deterrent, but if it isn’t, they record what happens so there will be evidence. Sometimes the evidence helps family members know what happened to their loved ones, but in situations like this one, it also counters the lies coming from 47’s regime.

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                                      • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                                        We aren't even asking why ICE is even at these protests full of white ICU nurses and moms in vans. Like, why are they there? Looking for a Mexican drug gang in a suburban roundabout? Finding the secret foreign terror hiding in the trunk of a minivan?

                                        They aren't even pretending to do "immigration enforcement" they're just suppressing dissent. Lower your head and put that sign down and they will go away. Say "yes officer" and "no officer" and show your papers and no one gets dead.*

                                        *sarcasm

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                                        @futurebird now thar they were ordered to disperse expect half of them to take down any marking and play that they are part of the protests. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titushky

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                                        • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                                          @wanwizard @TimWardCam

                                          I'm not just saying "they can't read" to be mean. (But it is a nice bonus.) Understanding paperwork takes not just literacy but training. I think the "ICE officers" in their home-made Halloween costume uniforms from Temu, probably do not have even the training of police academy recruit shadowing a real officer to learn the beat.

                                          They seem to have been told not to even try to read any papers as they have not hired people who can learn those skills.

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                                          @futurebird @wanwizard @TimWardCam Who should be blamed for this tragedy? Trump who is legally offering them free flights home? Or the vegetative autopen who opened the border to millions of unvetted illegals? 1.9M have taken Trump free flights home.

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