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  • myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
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    wrote last edited by futurebird@sauropods.win
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    This is a graphic from a paper on ants but it looks like something I drew in a boring meeting.

    (The point it's making is an interesting one, all ants can do all jobs, and you don't need to inject them to make it happen, they will just switch if the job isn't being done. But, I think they found a way to trigger this switch in the paper which would be ... huge, honestly. )

    I will not comment on the "ant muscles"

    Is everyone interested in ants just... weird?

    Just a moment...

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    • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

      This is a graphic from a paper on ants but it looks like something I drew in a boring meeting.

      (The point it's making is an interesting one, all ants can do all jobs, and you don't need to inject them to make it happen, they will just switch if the job isn't being done. But, I think they found a way to trigger this switch in the paper which would be ... huge, honestly. )

      I will not comment on the "ant muscles"

      Is everyone interested in ants just... weird?

      Just a moment...

      favicon

      (www.cell.com)

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      myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
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      Is "Cell" a good journal?

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      • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

        Is "Cell" a good journal?

        Daniel LakelandD This user is from outside of this forum
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        @futurebird

        Cell is an extremely prestigious journal. I dont want to say "good". In many ways I think of the entire journal system as evil.

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          Is "Cell" a good journal?

          Space Catitude 🚀T This user is from outside of this forum
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          @futurebird

          Well,it's a "real" journal. IDK how it rates among scientific journals.

          But of course, science journals are more interested in communication of the science than in the quality of the art.

          First I've heard of a "graphical abstract", though -- that's new. I wonder if that's part of the article proper, or just something for the website?

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          • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

            This is a graphic from a paper on ants but it looks like something I drew in a boring meeting.

            (The point it's making is an interesting one, all ants can do all jobs, and you don't need to inject them to make it happen, they will just switch if the job isn't being done. But, I think they found a way to trigger this switch in the paper which would be ... huge, honestly. )

            I will not comment on the "ant muscles"

            Is everyone interested in ants just... weird?

            Just a moment...

            favicon

            (www.cell.com)

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            @futurebird the ant muscles make it look like the caretaking ant lost a nut, just saying

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            • secretslothS secretsloth

              @futurebird the ant muscles make it look like the caretaking ant lost a nut, just saying

              myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
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              @secretsloth

              That is her gaster! LMAO

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              • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                This is a graphic from a paper on ants but it looks like something I drew in a boring meeting.

                (The point it's making is an interesting one, all ants can do all jobs, and you don't need to inject them to make it happen, they will just switch if the job isn't being done. But, I think they found a way to trigger this switch in the paper which would be ... huge, honestly. )

                I will not comment on the "ant muscles"

                Is everyone interested in ants just... weird?

                Just a moment...

                favicon

                (www.cell.com)

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                wrote last edited by kanamauna@sauropods.win
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                @futurebird

                Pah. Wake me up when they reprogram the Majors to Minims. /s

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                • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                  Is "Cell" a good journal?

                  Weird SocksO This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @futurebird
                  The short answer is yes.
                  It was right with "Nature".
                  Or at least it used to be.

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                  • Weird SocksO Weird Socks

                    @futurebird
                    The short answer is yes.
                    It was right with "Nature".
                    Or at least it used to be.

                    myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @ohmu

                    It's just a few ant muscles! Jeeez

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                    • Weird SocksO Weird Socks

                      @futurebird
                      The short answer is yes.
                      It was right with "Nature".
                      Or at least it used to be.

                      myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @ohmu

                      And a "💘MOM" tattoo... but that is something an ant *would* have if she could have a tattoo... on her huge muscles...

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                      • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                        @ohmu

                        And a "💘MOM" tattoo... but that is something an ant *would* have if she could have a tattoo... on her huge muscles...

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                        @futurebird
                        Looks like it's still quality science to me.

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                          @futurebird

                          Well,it's a "real" journal. IDK how it rates among scientific journals.

                          But of course, science journals are more interested in communication of the science than in the quality of the art.

                          First I've heard of a "graphical abstract", though -- that's new. I wonder if that's part of the article proper, or just something for the website?

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                          @TerryHancock @futurebird
                          I think I've been seeing graphical abstracts much more during the last 10 years or so? Before, graphical abstracts seemed rare. Wikipedia claims they go back to the 1970s! Of course it's no wonder that they couldn't catch on back when printing of readable graphical figures was so hard. Now I'm sure they'll become the norm as soon as scientists have the time and funding to add a graphical design degree to all their usual schooling.

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                            @TerryHancock @futurebird
                            I think I've been seeing graphical abstracts much more during the last 10 years or so? Before, graphical abstracts seemed rare. Wikipedia claims they go back to the 1970s! Of course it's no wonder that they couldn't catch on back when printing of readable graphical figures was so hard. Now I'm sure they'll become the norm as soon as scientists have the time and funding to add a graphical design degree to all their usual schooling.

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                            @llewelly @TerryHancock

                            "Now I'm sure they'll become the norm as soon as scientists have the time and funding to add a graphical design degree to all their usual schooling."

                            Perfect.

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                            • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                              This is a graphic from a paper on ants but it looks like something I drew in a boring meeting.

                              (The point it's making is an interesting one, all ants can do all jobs, and you don't need to inject them to make it happen, they will just switch if the job isn't being done. But, I think they found a way to trigger this switch in the paper which would be ... huge, honestly. )

                              I will not comment on the "ant muscles"

                              Is everyone interested in ants just... weird?

                              Just a moment...

                              favicon

                              (www.cell.com)

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                              @futurebird

                              I haven't seen all that many instances of this extreme of a drawing style among ant biology colleagues.

                              Cell is typically a well-regarded journal, although not one that is regularly read by many ant biologists.

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                              • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                                This is a graphic from a paper on ants but it looks like something I drew in a boring meeting.

                                (The point it's making is an interesting one, all ants can do all jobs, and you don't need to inject them to make it happen, they will just switch if the job isn't being done. But, I think they found a way to trigger this switch in the paper which would be ... huge, honestly. )

                                I will not comment on the "ant muscles"

                                Is everyone interested in ants just... weird?

                                Just a moment...

                                favicon

                                (www.cell.com)

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                                @futurebird this might actually be brilliAnt, not only because the image rules, but also because it's definitely not ai generated, probably setting the paper apart nowadays

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                                • Daniel LakelandD Daniel Lakeland

                                  @futurebird

                                  Cell is an extremely prestigious journal. I dont want to say "good". In many ways I think of the entire journal system as evil.

                                  myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @dlakelan

                                  I'm just asking because there are some "journals" that have websites that look like they are a real journal and they publish ... anything. No standards. I think people just pay them to publish things. And the only way to tell is to look at a lot of papers on the site and check their citations, and that only works if you know the field a little.

                                  The other option is to simply ask some people if the site is any good or not. Ideally people who might know.

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                                  • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                                    @dlakelan

                                    I'm just asking because there are some "journals" that have websites that look like they are a real journal and they publish ... anything. No standards. I think people just pay them to publish things. And the only way to tell is to look at a lot of papers on the site and check their citations, and that only works if you know the field a little.

                                    The other option is to simply ask some people if the site is any good or not. Ideally people who might know.

                                    myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @dlakelan

                                    What makes the fake sites even more annoying is sometimes the papers there ARE good papers. They are just mixed in with bad ones and total junk.

                                    Which is what the point of having a journal is supposed to be "look here is some good research worth reading and we think they did a good job"

                                    *sigh*

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                                    • Weird SocksO Weird Socks

                                      @futurebird
                                      Looks like it's still quality science to me.

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                                      @ohmu

                                      Honestly the more I look at it the more I like it. The way their heads are drawn is very realistic.

                                      But, I wish they'd shown that minims do "defense" work too. Older minims will ride on the leaves the majors carry and help protect the major's big juicy head from parasites (and also help clean and prep the leaf in transit.)

                                      I wonder what triggers THAT behavior.

                                      I need to get the pdf of this paper badly now!

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                                      • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                                        This is a graphic from a paper on ants but it looks like something I drew in a boring meeting.

                                        (The point it's making is an interesting one, all ants can do all jobs, and you don't need to inject them to make it happen, they will just switch if the job isn't being done. But, I think they found a way to trigger this switch in the paper which would be ... huge, honestly. )

                                        I will not comment on the "ant muscles"

                                        Is everyone interested in ants just... weird?

                                        Just a moment...

                                        favicon

                                        (www.cell.com)

                                        Link Preview Image
                                        myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @MyrmecolNews @xris @alexwild

                                        Just in case any of you missed this gem. I think everyone should see this drawing.

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                                        • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                                          @ohmu

                                          Honestly the more I look at it the more I like it. The way their heads are drawn is very realistic.

                                          But, I wish they'd shown that minims do "defense" work too. Older minims will ride on the leaves the majors carry and help protect the major's big juicy head from parasites (and also help clean and prep the leaf in transit.)

                                          I wonder what triggers THAT behavior.

                                          I need to get the pdf of this paper badly now!

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                                          @futurebird do you know about contacting the paper 1st author directly to ask for a copy?
                                          People are usually delighted someone wants to read their paper.

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