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This is a graphic from a paper on ants but it looks like something I drew in a boring meeting.

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  • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

    This is a graphic from a paper on ants but it looks like something I drew in a boring meeting.

    (The point it's making is an interesting one, all ants can do all jobs, and you don't need to inject them to make it happen, they will just switch if the job isn't being done. But, I think they found a way to trigger this switch in the paper which would be ... huge, honestly. )

    I will not comment on the "ant muscles"

    Is everyone interested in ants just... weird?

    Just a moment...

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    @futurebird

    I haven't seen all that many instances of this extreme of a drawing style among ant biology colleagues.

    Cell is typically a well-regarded journal, although not one that is regularly read by many ant biologists.

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    • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

      This is a graphic from a paper on ants but it looks like something I drew in a boring meeting.

      (The point it's making is an interesting one, all ants can do all jobs, and you don't need to inject them to make it happen, they will just switch if the job isn't being done. But, I think they found a way to trigger this switch in the paper which would be ... huge, honestly. )

      I will not comment on the "ant muscles"

      Is everyone interested in ants just... weird?

      Just a moment...

      favicon

      (www.cell.com)

      Link Preview Image
      DanD This user is from outside of this forum
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      @futurebird this might actually be brilliAnt, not only because the image rules, but also because it's definitely not ai generated, probably setting the paper apart nowadays

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      • Daniel LakelandD Daniel Lakeland

        @futurebird

        Cell is an extremely prestigious journal. I dont want to say "good". In many ways I think of the entire journal system as evil.

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        @dlakelan

        I'm just asking because there are some "journals" that have websites that look like they are a real journal and they publish ... anything. No standards. I think people just pay them to publish things. And the only way to tell is to look at a lot of papers on the site and check their citations, and that only works if you know the field a little.

        The other option is to simply ask some people if the site is any good or not. Ideally people who might know.

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        • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

          @dlakelan

          I'm just asking because there are some "journals" that have websites that look like they are a real journal and they publish ... anything. No standards. I think people just pay them to publish things. And the only way to tell is to look at a lot of papers on the site and check their citations, and that only works if you know the field a little.

          The other option is to simply ask some people if the site is any good or not. Ideally people who might know.

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          @dlakelan

          What makes the fake sites even more annoying is sometimes the papers there ARE good papers. They are just mixed in with bad ones and total junk.

          Which is what the point of having a journal is supposed to be "look here is some good research worth reading and we think they did a good job"

          *sigh*

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          • Weird SocksO Weird Socks

            @futurebird
            Looks like it's still quality science to me.

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            @ohmu

            Honestly the more I look at it the more I like it. The way their heads are drawn is very realistic.

            But, I wish they'd shown that minims do "defense" work too. Older minims will ride on the leaves the majors carry and help protect the major's big juicy head from parasites (and also help clean and prep the leaf in transit.)

            I wonder what triggers THAT behavior.

            I need to get the pdf of this paper badly now!

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            • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

              This is a graphic from a paper on ants but it looks like something I drew in a boring meeting.

              (The point it's making is an interesting one, all ants can do all jobs, and you don't need to inject them to make it happen, they will just switch if the job isn't being done. But, I think they found a way to trigger this switch in the paper which would be ... huge, honestly. )

              I will not comment on the "ant muscles"

              Is everyone interested in ants just... weird?

              Just a moment...

              favicon

              (www.cell.com)

              Link Preview Image
              myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
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              @MyrmecolNews @xris @alexwild

              Just in case any of you missed this gem. I think everyone should see this drawing.

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              • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                @ohmu

                Honestly the more I look at it the more I like it. The way their heads are drawn is very realistic.

                But, I wish they'd shown that minims do "defense" work too. Older minims will ride on the leaves the majors carry and help protect the major's big juicy head from parasites (and also help clean and prep the leaf in transit.)

                I wonder what triggers THAT behavior.

                I need to get the pdf of this paper badly now!

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                @futurebird do you know about contacting the paper 1st author directly to ask for a copy?
                People are usually delighted someone wants to read their paper.

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                • HelenaH Helena

                  @futurebird do you know about contacting the paper 1st author directly to ask for a copy?
                  People are usually delighted someone wants to read their paper.

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                  @Hellybootwader

                  I have a lot of luck doing this when it's not a big popular journal. In this case I will wait and the pdf will probably show up in time. Or go to the library. I need to go for a bunch of other things anyways.

                  But this is great if the authors aren't getting spammed because they published in something popular.

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                  • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                    Is "Cell" a good journal?

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                    @futurebird Cell is one of those journals that, if you are in my field (neurobiology) and you publish in it, you will probably get a job. So by conventional standards of academic journals, yes, extremely good.

                    They've been promoting graphical abstracts for a long time. Usually they are things like diagrams of biochemical signalling pathways or that sort of thing, actually quite helpful. I love what the authors did with this one.

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                    • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                      @dlakelan

                      I'm just asking because there are some "journals" that have websites that look like they are a real journal and they publish ... anything. No standards. I think people just pay them to publish things. And the only way to tell is to look at a lot of papers on the site and check their citations, and that only works if you know the field a little.

                      The other option is to simply ask some people if the site is any good or not. Ideally people who might know.

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                      @futurebird @dlakelan

                      Cell has made 9 retractions since 2020 according to
                      the searchable database atl https://retractionwatch.com

                      Retraction Watch has some interesting tales.

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                      Cell Press won’t retract papers despite one author confessing to fraud

                      Cell Press journals will not be retracting two papers that were flagged with expressions of concern (EOCs) in April after one author claimed to have manipulated some experiments. In a strange turn of events, as we previously reported, the study’s corresponding author refuted the claims of the author who confessed to fraud, citing concerns about…

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                      Retraction Watch (retractionwatch.com)

                      Going further back: http://thecostofknowledge.com

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                      • GLCG GLC

                        @futurebird @dlakelan

                        Cell has made 9 retractions since 2020 according to
                        the searchable database atl https://retractionwatch.com

                        Retraction Watch has some interesting tales.

                        Link Preview Image
                        Cell Press won’t retract papers despite one author confessing to fraud

                        Cell Press journals will not be retracting two papers that were flagged with expressions of concern (EOCs) in April after one author claimed to have manipulated some experiments. In a strange turn of events, as we previously reported, the study’s corresponding author refuted the claims of the author who confessed to fraud, citing concerns about…

                        favicon

                        Retraction Watch (retractionwatch.com)

                        Going further back: http://thecostofknowledge.com

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                        @glc @dlakelan

                        Some retractions are a good sign IMO. Zero? Kinda sus.

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