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Is there a name for when someone thinks they are really bad at something (for example math) and they have learned not to trust their own intuition at all so they make really wild errors by second guessing themselves?

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  • That’s a morayB That’s a moray

    @futurebird @3TomatoesShort @EverydayMoggie Not measuring anything, just using it to get a straight line. Could use any straight edge.

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    @Bumblefish @3TomatoesShort @EverydayMoggie

    But how would you get the angle at the center exactly the same with just ruler?

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    • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

      @Bumblefish @3TomatoesShort @EverydayMoggie

      But how would you get the angle at the center exactly the same with just ruler?

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      @futurebird @3TomatoesShort @EverydayMoggie Wherever the cross happens is the peak of the triangle.

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      • That’s a morayB That’s a moray

        @futurebird @3TomatoesShort @EverydayMoggie Wherever the cross happens is the peak of the triangle.

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        @Bumblefish @3TomatoesShort @EverydayMoggie

        The peak is the angle at the center, right? I don't see a "cross"

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        • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

          @Bumblefish @3TomatoesShort @EverydayMoggie

          The peak is the angle at the center, right? I don't see a "cross"

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          @futurebird @3TomatoesShort @EverydayMoggie That’s because you haven’t drawn one and for the life of me I don’t know why. You need the cross to cut the pizza.

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          • That’s a morayB That’s a moray

            @futurebird @3TomatoesShort @EverydayMoggie That’s because you haven’t drawn one and for the life of me I don’t know why. You need the cross to cut the pizza.

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            @Bumblefish @3TomatoesShort @EverydayMoggie

            OK great. I still don't see how to cut two slices that are the same size from the identical circles without measuring with the ruler or using the compass again.

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            • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

              @Bumblefish @3TomatoesShort @EverydayMoggie

              OK great. I still don't see how to cut two slices that are the same size from the identical circles without measuring with the ruler or using the compass again.

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              @futurebird @3TomatoesShort @EverydayMoggie The opposite one will always be the same size.

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              • That’s a morayB That’s a moray

                @futurebird @3TomatoesShort @EverydayMoggie The opposite one will always be the same size.

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                @Bumblefish @3TomatoesShort @EverydayMoggie

                Absolutely.

                But if you want to copy an angle to a new location that won't help.

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                • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                  @Bumblefish @3TomatoesShort @EverydayMoggie

                  Absolutely.

                  But if you want to copy an angle to a new location that won't help.

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                  @futurebird @3TomatoesShort @EverydayMoggie Tracing paper FTW!

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                  • That’s a morayB That’s a moray

                    @futurebird @3TomatoesShort @EverydayMoggie Tracing paper FTW!

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                    @Bumblefish @3TomatoesShort @EverydayMoggie

                    Tracing paper isn't really making a copy. It's just the same figure again. As I see it anyways.

                    But my point here is that it take two "measurements" with these tools.

                    I'm going to use some of this I think. Very cool stuff.

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                    • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                      Is there a name for when someone thinks they are really bad at something (for example math) and they have learned not to trust their own intuition at all so they make really wild errors by second guessing themselves?

                      Here is a question:
                      Which angles are equal?

                      To me this is an "easy" question even if you don't know about isosceles triangles or anything. The symmetry of the figure suggests that 3 and 2 are congruent.

                      I have a student who is struggling with this kind of thing.

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                      @futurebird

                      If I saw the numbers *inside* the angles as a kid, I would have said they are not equal. That has nothing to do with the measurements of said angles, which match. I'm struggling to view them as equal as an adult.

                      Descriptive mathematical statements in English are their own dialect, but are not treated as such by people who use math when interacting with people who don't speak that dialect.

                      Question is easy, meaning derived from phrasing is hard.

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                        @futurebird

                        If I saw the numbers *inside* the angles as a kid, I would have said they are not equal. That has nothing to do with the measurements of said angles, which match. I'm struggling to view them as equal as an adult.

                        Descriptive mathematical statements in English are their own dialect, but are not treated as such by people who use math when interacting with people who don't speak that dialect.

                        Question is easy, meaning derived from phrasing is hard.

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                        @futurebird

                        This is why basic math and esp. geometry were hard for me, but algebra was easy.

                        I had two math teachers in a room describe what they said was the same solution to the same problem, but I heard two different problems, solutions, and answers. They were both very exacting about what was the right answer, but became flustered when I brought up what didn't match up for me. In this thread, I've seen multiple notations for the same thing. To me, they are all different problems.

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                          @futurebird

                          This is why basic math and esp. geometry were hard for me, but algebra was easy.

                          I had two math teachers in a room describe what they said was the same solution to the same problem, but I heard two different problems, solutions, and answers. They were both very exacting about what was the right answer, but became flustered when I brought up what didn't match up for me. In this thread, I've seen multiple notations for the same thing. To me, they are all different problems.

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                          @undead

                          The things that are the same are what we are really trying to talk about.

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                          • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                            @undead

                            The things that are the same are what we are really trying to talk about.

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                            @futurebird

                            Ok. Sorry for being offbase.

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                              @futurebird

                              Ok. Sorry for being offbase.

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                              @undead

                              I didn't mean that you were off base. (Nor do I think you have anything to apologize for. )

                              It's fine to prefer a certain notation ... but the notation isn't really what it's about. I'm just suggesting that as a thread to pull to get past what isn't as important here.

                              I'm very particular about notation because I know it can be confusing as I explain here:

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                              @jetlagjen@gts.phillipsuk.org We use the numbers consistently because I find using three letters is more confusing for most students. eg ∠ABC = ∠BCA vs. ∠3 = ∠2 Which do you find less confusing? We could also do ∠B = ∠C but naming angles by single letter is a bad habit since there can be multiple angles at a vertex.

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