Fedicon Livestream
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@esm @Gargron @julian as someone who's also on the outside looking in, I kind of have to concur here. nobody's really having fun. even on socialhub, all I really see is just the same few people people getting really pedantic and argumentative over implementation details and whether rdf is good and where the bike shed for the nuclear reactor should be built. contrast atproto, where people can just be like "I built a toilet social network because it's funny."
I think that activitypub sorely needs more creativity and experimentation and people pushing the protocol in ways that are super unexpected, as well as having developers welcome new people on board and helping them get up to speed (and the casual discussion space that essem mentioned). doing this will probably bring a lot of much needed diversity and progress to the space imo
[eblu@wetdry.world](https://community.nodebb.org/user/eblu%40wetdry.world) said in [Fedicon Livestream](https://community.nodebb.org/post/https%3A%2F%2Fwetdry.world%2Fusers%2Feblu%2Fstatuses%2F114960888673676643): > even on socialhub, all I really see is just the same few people people getting really pedantic and argumentative over implementation details and whether rdf is good and where the bike shed for the nuclear reactor should be built. contrast atproto, where people can just be like "I built a toilet social network because it's funny." I'd love to put some of my creative and cat-herding energies toward developing an implementor-first place for AP developer support. I often make the claim that AP-related discussion should take place over ActivityPub, so I'd love to put that into practice. I'm not a chat-first person, so Discord isn't my first option, but there are other options...! cc [gargron@mastodon.social](https://community.nodebb.org/user/gargron%40mastodon.social) [esm@wetdry.world](https://community.nodebb.org/user/esm%40wetdry.world) -
[dawn@cosocial.ca](https://community.nodebb.org/user/dawn%40cosocial.ca) presenting an interesting history of how [coop@cosocial.ca](https://community.nodebb.org/user/coop%40cosocial.ca) came to be. I love how both we have representation from both CoSocial.ca and SocialBC! 
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[dawn@cosocial.ca](https://community.nodebb.org/user/dawn%40cosocial.ca) makes the point that it's important that cosocial members buy at least the share into the coop so as to have a stake in the coop itself. It's more of a commitment than just filling in a form. 
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[johannab@cosocial.ca](https://community.nodebb.org/user/johannab%40cosocial.ca) on Digital Third Spaces! Back in the day forums were that digital third space. Social media took that over and they've dropped the ball. Let's bring them back (with more forums obviously) 
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Someone's got Mastodon open on their device with sound on and it keeps dinging, and I'm having a Pavlovian urge to check my phone. **I don't even use the Mastodon web app with**
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Analog or digital, humans are the glue that holds together third spaces. 
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[johannab@cosocial.ca](https://community.nodebb.org/user/johannab%40cosocial.ca) making the assertion that fedi can make a better third space (digitally) 
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[johannab@cosocial.ca](https://community.nodebb.org/user/johannab%40cosocial.ca) making the assertion that fedi can make a better third space (digitally) [reiver@mastodon.social](https://community.nodebb.org/user/reiver%40mastodon.social) with a surprise demo of CrowdBucks! A new way to help fund the fediverse.  
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Congrats [chad@mstdn.ca](https://community.nodebb.org/user/chad%40mstdn.ca) for winning the FediCon swag competition. Move over stickers here's a MUG.  cc [evan@cosocial.ca](https://community.nodebb.org/user/evan%40cosocial.ca)
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@johnefrancis @julian @evan what a damn good looking mug!!
I think the “Moosetodon Movement” means more than just mstdn.ca, further solidified at #FediCon; a movement country wide to kick the Zuckerverse to the curb.
We still have a lot of work to do but I believe our small but mighty community is working toward that common goal.
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@julian
TLDR; but if it's akin to a viable microparyment service, then let's use it to pay rights holders for their IP. It could be commission-free small amounts that are still greater than the royalties proprietary incumbents pay and could attract a critical mass through a/ better pay & b/ ethical tech.
@reiver
