Chebucto Regional Softball Club

@imp3tuz

OK but how do they make the IT departments in various companies and agencies and schools all start nagging everyone in the same way?

Do they give them nagging lessons and call it "training" or something?

@theplaguedoc

We will get to it. Though both of us watch very little fiction it's kind of a crime really.

I'm a Howl's Moving Castle girl.

Things my husband didn't know:

* what is grok(in the context of X)
* That OpenAI used to be non-profit
* What Studio Ghibli is.
* The Studio Ghibli Controversy
* What "Training Data" are

Thought "everyone" knew this stuff. That's *my* bubble I get it.

He's very up to date on news, just not this.

Nonetheless his IT department keeps asking them to "learn copilot" so they can "be more efficient" everyone hates it. (Is Microsoft doing something to make IT departments do this all over the place?)

@llewelly

It's always family, friends and coworkers who fail you with the social engineering isn't it?

@david_chisnall @rep_movsd @GossiTheDog

It's that trust that I'm talking about here. The process makes sense to me. But, I've also seen prompts that stump these things. I've seen prompts that make it spit out images that are identical to existing images.

@david_chisnall @rep_movsd @GossiTheDog

This is what I've learned by working with the public libraries I could find, and reading about how these things work.

To really know if an image isn't in the training data (or something very close to it) we'd need to compare it to the training data and we *can't* do that.

The training data are secret.

All that (maybe stolen) information is a big "trade secret."

So, when we are told "this isn't like anything in the data" the source is "trust me bro"

@david_chisnall @rep_movsd @GossiTheDog

This has always been possible, it was just slow. I think the innovation of these systems is building what amounts to search indexes for the atomized training data by doing a huge amount of pre-processing "training" (starting to think that term is a little misleading) this allows this kind of result to be generated fast enough to make it a viable application.

@SnoopJ

It is related to this:
https://www.booooooom.com/2016/05/09/bicycles-built-based-on-peoples-attempts-to-draw-them-from-memory/

@kevingranade @RustedComputing @rep_movsd @GossiTheDog

"mammal brain"

@rep_movsd @GossiTheDog

"Its possible to put some guardrails on what the AI can be asked to do."

How?

@rep_movsd @GossiTheDog

OK you came at me with "Because thats how the math works." a moment ago, yet *you* may think these programs are doing things they can't.

'Intelligence working towards a reward' is a bad metaphor. (Why some see the apology, think it means something.)

They will say "exclude X from influencing your next response" Or "tell me how you arrived at that result" and think, because an LLM will give a coherent-sounding response, it is really doing what they ask.

It can't.

@rep_movsd @josh0 @GossiTheDog

"Whether or not mainstream AI has been trained on objectionable content cannot be proven by anyone except the law."

"LLM doesnt need to be trained on such content to be able to generate them."

First statement is true second is a wild guess. You don't know.

@rep_movsd @GossiTheDog

But you could only state that it could generate something not in the training data... if you knew what was in the training data. But that is secret. So you don't know. You don't know if there is a near identical image to the one produced in the training data.

@rep_movsd @GossiTheDog

There are things that these generators do well, and things that they struggle with, and things they simply can't generate. These limitations are set by the training data.

It's easy to come up with a prompt for an engine that it just can't manage to do since it had nothing to reference.

@rep_movsd @GossiTheDog

"LLM doesn't need to be trained on such content to be able to generate them."

People say this but how do you know it is true?

@batkaren

this is scary

@sunumbral

Did you spin this yarn? is it silk? it's so shiny and well defined.

@faithisleaping

As someone who basically LIVES on Sesame Street we are in NYC. But like many neighborhoods (and even floors of some buildings) there are local Mayors in addition to the Mayor of the city. So Oscar is in charge of the street.

@johnlogic

Maybe "Hypatia" ? IDK

@johnlogic

Kind of shocked they are still around.